OT: Recording Industry Ripoff

Baron Munchausen · #1 September 22nd, 2005, 01:28 PM

Ah... NOW we see why the move for the price increases. They had sent 'cease and desist' letters to a bunch of the P2P software companies and some of them have folded as expected. WinMX network is now disconnected. Several others are having serious problems.

Fyron · #2 September 22nd, 2005, 08:31 PM

Unfortunately for them, the biggest "threat," Bit Torrent, is impossible to eliminate, as literally anyone can start up a new tracker. The MPAA and RIAA (to a lesser extent) have sued/threatened to sue the major trackers out of existence, but 10 more popped up to replace each of them. Of course, BT pales in comparison to the threat posed to sales by producing more and more of the same old crap every year, with just a handful of decent artists/movies in their lineups.

Combat Wombat · #3 September 22nd, 2005, 09:18 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Unfortunately for them, the biggest "threat," Bit Torrent, is impossible to eliminate, as literally anyone can start up a new tracker. The MPAA and RIAA (to a lesser extent) have sued/threatened to sue the major trackers out of existence, but 10 more popped up to replace each of them. Of course, BT pales in comparison to the threat posed to sales by producing more and more of the same old crap every year, with just a handful of decent artists/movies in their lineups.

100% right on

Atrocities · #4 September 22nd, 2005, 11:15 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Unfortunately for them, the biggest "threat," Bit Torrent, is impossible to eliminate, as literally anyone can start up a new tracker. The MPAA and RIAA (to a lesser extent) have sued/threatened to sue the major trackers out of existence, but 10 more popped up to replace each of them. Of course, BT pales in comparison to the threat posed to sales by producing more and more of the same old crap every year, with just a handful of decent artists/movies in their lineups.

Well said.

narf poit chez BOOM · #5 September 23rd, 2005, 12:17 AM

Hey - Anybody want to list places to get independant music?

Atrocities · #6 September 23rd, 2005, 09:02 PM

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narf poit chez BOOM said:
Hey - Anybody want to list places to get independant music?

Not here Narf, it would violate the rules of the forum. Unless you were talking about legal independant music downloads approved by the artists and their lables.

Atrocities · #7 September 23rd, 2005, 09:05 PM

A long while back I posted about how the RIAA had copied KaZaa software and had released its own version in order to "gather" evidence against people who happened to use their P2P program. I was laughed at but later that year the developers of KaZaa sued the RIAA for doing it and the RIAA sued a great many people for piracy. I think one of them was an 11 year old girl and her destitute Grandmother. Way to go RIAA, make those examples.

Captain Kwok · #8 September 23rd, 2005, 10:50 PM

There's nothing wrong with seeking out independent artists, which in most cases by defination are 'label' free. Anyhow, most P2P networks actually try and promote the legimate use of their networks for downloading approved files for these sorts of artists.

In most cases, a given genre will have websites where you can download independent artists of that style. Usually an interweb search will bring up said sites. Some have fees per song, while others allow free downloads hoping that you might some of the artists' albums.

El_Phil · #9 September 24th, 2005, 07:59 PM

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Atrocities said:
A long while back I posted about how the RIAA had copied KaZaa software and had released its own version in order to "gather" evidence against people who happened to use their P2P program. I was laughed at but later that year the developers of KaZaa sued the RIAA for doing it and the RIAA sued a great many people for piracy. I think one of them was an 11 year old girl and her destitute Grandmother. Way to go RIAA, make those examples.

Looking at it first off, well yes its awful. BUT and it is a big but, she was breaking the law. Either the law applys to all or scrap it. Complain about the entire system all you like, but the girl wouldn't have been in trouble if she wasn't breaking the law.

I'm not condoning the RIAA or their actions, but if people didn't pirate they wouldn't be in trouble. When you can get legal music from Hong Kong imports at �6 or so each then I start to lose sympathy. Yes in a standard retailer music is overpriced, but at ~50p a track on legal CD you can't say that is a ripoff.

Baron Munchausen · #10 September 23rd, 2005, 11:15 PM

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Atrocities said:

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narf poit chez BOOM said:
Hey - Anybody want to list places to get independant music?

Not here Narf, it would violate the rules of the forum. Unless you were talking about legal independant music downloads approved by the artists and their lables.

Most of the online services like iTunes make at least some room for new artists. There are also completely 'Indie' enterprises. The most famous is CD Baby, where you can buy CDs with samples of many artists on a single disk. There are others with some rather obvious names.

http://www.cdbaby.com

http://www.indie-music.com/

http://www.indiemusic.com/