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September 23rd, 2005, 07:45 PM
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Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
ok, I've read all the guides, strategies, and what not... enough material that it took me 2 weeks to read it all.
In my first game ever of SEIV, I'm playing against 20 AI, max difficulty, low bonus to AI. unmodded 1.91 except 255 systems and 20000 units.
At turn 20 I've colonized 1/8 of the galaxy. I'm researching warp closers first and demanding gifts from my weaker trade allies to assimilate their tech. I've also demanded their planets in systems I've claimed so I can fully own the systems and not go to war with them. I also demand each and every ship I see entering my territory as a gift, (after of course the AI offers trade treaty). I've got rock and gas techs, and O2, H, and CO2 breathers as a result.
At turn 30, my tech also includes the combined total of all tech from known aliens (man those weaklings are guillable).
At turn 46 I'm 365k and in first place. Second place AI is 111k. I've also created my first planet out of a tiny asteroid field. Also my monolith IIIs have started kicking in.
Before I hit MEE, I expect to close all my warp points, get max tech, maximize my internal development, and then reopen a warp point to attack the galaxy with a vengence, one wormhole at a time. For honor's sake, I'll let the AI declare war on me first and fire the first shot. If I hit MEE before my warp closers finish building in 10 turns, I've got enough double Warhead III mines at every warp point to send the AI retreating to their research centers to learn minesweeping V.
After I eat the AI alive in this game, I fully expect to take on modded AIs for a greater game experience. I just wonder, has anyone ever lost to the AI before?
I can't wait to get my life settled enough to start playing humans... and so start playing with some evil human vs human strategies.
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September 23rd, 2005, 07:50 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
Yep, I've lost to the AI before, several times. Now to qualify that, I can't remember losing to the stock AI's before. TDM AI's are a totally different story. Much more difficult. Also, since I always play with a high AI bonus, that makes it a LOT more difficult too.
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September 23rd, 2005, 08:24 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
I remember that PvK lost to the AI once during beta testing. He was started in the same system with the EEE and they were quite a problem. Eventually he told us that they'd finished him off.  When the game is very early (and therefore simple) the AI is apparently pretty nasty.
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September 23rd, 2005, 08:54 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
If you have ever lost to the AI then you need to read this: Evidence That Your And Idiot Emperor
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September 23rd, 2005, 09:00 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
That's Harsh Atrocities 
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September 23rd, 2005, 09:01 PM
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Shrapnel Fanatic
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
Read the list and see if I am lying! 
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September 23rd, 2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
I posted in the list  a few times actually
And hey we can all lose battles and sometimes it only takes one big loss to get your hole empire's butt handed to it.
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When life gives you lemons take them and squeeze them in life's eye until it gives you the oranges you asked for!
"If men build things to look like our penis such as towers and ships does that mean female achitects represent women having penis envy?"
A line that made me chuckle, I can't remember where I heard it I just know it made me laugh.
"I'm not really a slapper....I mainly punch and gouge."
Tammy Lee my kung fu instructor/sifu's daughter when asked if she ever slapped a boy for saying something nasty to her.
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September 23rd, 2005, 10:02 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
Yes, I have lost to the A.I. many times, especially the Tessellates on high bonus.
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September 23rd, 2005, 10:56 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
It's probably easier for you because you're using 'exploits' to take advantage of the AI. Try the TDM Modpack where the AIs won't trade with you (usually), nor will they be willing to offer you any sort of friendly treaty. Lastly, use simultaneous combat. That should be somewhat tougher, even with just low bonus.
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September 23rd, 2005, 10:58 PM
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Re: Has Anyone Ever Lost to the AI Before?
I especialy liked one of the entries in the idiot emperor list...
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26. You lose to Atrocities.
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