Extra toys for scenario designers...

[WBWilder]

Drop me a line Bernard and I can point you to someone who I am sure can help you.

bwilder@bellsouth.net

WB

[PlasmaKrab]

Great, Bernard, that should be something to consider!
It will definitely be a big help on some scenarios, though of course one will have to handle them carefully.

Now about icons and dedicated target units like the radar stations you mentionned, I and others have been giving it some thoughts, so possibly that would be something to consider too.

[Bernard]

Cheers for the support guys.

I will have to make sure anything we put together along these lines comes with a warning for users to check the integrity of their oob files to prevent snarl ups.

If anyone uses these units in a scenario, please post it in this thread along with whatever oob you've used it in so we can evaluate the results.

[Weeble]

You've saved me a headache!

I've been working on a scenario of the PAVN raid on the USAF/Mhong TACAN site 'Lima 85' (Pha-thi, Laos, 11th March 1968). I was having problems assigning victory hexes etc and I think your extra 'toys' could be the answer.

This, the largest ground combat loss by the USAF in the Vietnam War, is unusual in that the PAVN OOB is more complete than the USAF/Mhong one - due to the site being overrun.

Cheers

[Bernard]

TACAN as in a air navigation beacon? Sounds like an interesting scenario. Post it here when done so we can try it.

To offset not using any v-hexes, you could increase the points value of each attacking unit, so that the attacker (PAVN) would have to destroy the TACAN site and handle their force wisely to prevent prohibitive losses.

[Weeble]

Yes, TACAN as in air navigation beacon, plus radar, EW, ELINT, comms, helipad and local defence on top of a steep-sided mountain.

'Lima 85' guided airstrikes in North Vietnam to such effect that a small (3 officers & 31 men plus 9 man reserve plus comms/crypto unit)PAVN sapper force underwent 9 months training to assault it.

See:

http://limasite85.us/index.html

Exhaustive PAVN AAR/OOB & Map in the above at:

http://limasite85.us/do_chi_ben.htm#_ftn8

It is very rare to get an After Action Report broken down to individual weaponry, especially for North Vietnam!

I think I can 'tweak' things without making it impossible. I will post/link it here when finished.

I know 'Steel Panthers' should be all about AFVs, but the ability to customise allows these small, intense actions to be replicated with at least some degree of accuracy.

[dita]

These extra goodies sound like a great idea. These sort of things can add all sorts of depth and open up the possibilities in scenario design.