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Old October 6th, 2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Blood Simple?!

Even if you do have all your hunters behind walls (and that should be the case as soon as feasible), Earth Attack and similar spells will utterly slaughter your hunters like there's no tomorrow, so you should expect those hunters to be expendable.

I wonder why those mages don't claim a life insurance or some such.
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Old October 6th, 2005, 07:19 PM

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I am SO glad that for my first MP game I am playing with 7 of my friends, none of whom has ever played this MP..!

I get the feeling that with just about any of you in the game it would be all over now (turn 25, biiig map) as we are still using twigs and rocks to arm ourselves!

heh heh

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P.S. I am the only one of us who reads this forum with any frequency and I am #1 by a long shot! weee!
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Old October 6th, 2005, 07:40 PM

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glad they could help btw if your bored and want to play a blitz against them try something like caelum and just make tons of basic seraphs and script them to quickness and then just false horror spam (take either wizards tower or watchtower and try to make 3 castles + 3 labs straight away and soon as you have some income make 4 seraphs a turn.

they will hate you for it probably after a while though
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Old October 7th, 2005, 03:26 AM

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I am SO glad that for my first MP game I am playing with 7 of my friends, none of whom has ever played this MP..!

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P.S. I am the only one of us who reads this forum with any frequency and I am #1 by a long shot! weee!
Heheheh. Just goes to show that Knowing IS Half the Battle When you are done thrashing them tho, get them on to the forum or swing by the IRC channel. Always good to have more players in the community.
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Old October 7th, 2005, 05:54 AM

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Thanks for that Graeme, I knew that 5k and below was a serious diminish but thought that it was a finer gradient than simply 5k and over.

BUT ! thats not why I said 8000. I suggest that because it gives your hunters a reasonable stay in one province before the pop does hit 5000 and below and you move em.

One of the things that I do find a pain in the *** is when I pool my blood slaves and I then have to go to each Blood Sacrifice priest and give him new slaves. I hope thats changed in Dom3.

In terms of equiping your hunters. All they get is a sanguine dousing rod. And I tend not to use anything but basic priests either. if I recall you can actually push unrest up despite tax 0, if you use higher level hunters. Three blood 1 priests with dousers seems the best.

As far as changing gear and pushing dominion. Its very hard. Its not just about a temple and a chap sacrificing. You have to keep his blood supply up, which means a lab too.

Plus your good priest is 390 gold a pop, giving you a basic cost to preach basic dominion of 790, plus a 5 slave, 5 nature knife. and then about 8 slaves per turn to keep him going, for every single province you want up. not too cheap.

In my opinion dominion is the single hardest thing for Mictlan to deal with.

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Old October 7th, 2005, 08:16 PM
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BUT ! thats not why I said 8000. I suggest that because it gives your hunters a reasonable stay in one province before the pop does hit 5000 and below and you move em.
There's no need for that. The population effect is that if a number chosen between 1 (maybe 0) and 5000 is less than the population, the hunt passes the check. So even 4000 people is 80% as effective as 5000.

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One of the things that I do find a pain in the *** is when I pool my blood slaves and I then have to go to each Blood Sacrifice priest and give him new slaves.
Don't pool your blood slaves. Go to each bloodhunting province, make a selection group of your hunters only, and press ctrl+z.

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In terms of equiping your hunters. All they get is a sanguine dousing rod. And I tend not to use anything but basic priests either. if I recall you can actually push unrest up despite tax 0, if you use higher level hunters. Three blood 1 priests with dousers seems the best.
A dousing rod raises your blood skill by 1 for the purpose of hunting if you already have 1 blood skill. The base chance that a hunter will succeed is 10%+(bloodskill*40%). So a blood 1 Mictlan priest with a dousing rod will succeed 90% of the time in a province with 0 unrest and 5000 people. Unrest is a percentage failure chance. The blood slaves you find are 1d6+bloodskill.

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Plus your good priest is 390 gold a pop, giving you a basic cost to preach basic dominion of 790, plus a 5 slave, 5 nature knife. and then about 8 slaves per turn to keep him going, for every single province you want up. not too cheap.
That would be the equivalent of about 8 temples in that single province, so that's kind of overkill. A single H2 Mictnal priest without a jade knife sacrificing two slaves a turn should be good enough if you picked a high dominion (7-8).
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A dousing rod raises your blood skill by 1 for the purpose of hunting if you already have 1 blood skill. The base chance that a hunter will succeed is 10%+(bloodskill*40%). So a blood 1 Mictlan priest with a dousing rod will succeed 90% of the time in a province with 0 unrest and 5000 people. Unrest is a percentage failure chance. The blood slaves you find are 1d6+bloodskill.
That amount of slaves captured cant be right. I've had B1 and B2 mages pull in 10-15 slaves on a really good day.
Or... is that 1d6oe? I suppose that would be reasonable.
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yah, its OE
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