Ermor Themes

shovah · #1 October 7th, 2005, 02:31 PM

how about arco sceptics with stone idols and winged shoes??

Jurri · #2 October 7th, 2005, 02:34 PM

Hey, Alneyan, those kamikaze sorcerors trump everything! Undead included.

Turin, what turn will you have 100 spirits? What about 200 or 300? Do the fire-blessed Vans or centaurs get a magical repel too, or is it only functional when attacking? I've almost convinced myself that I should duel you, if only to see what sort of tactics you exactly use (you guys conveniently not saving any turn files

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I think every slave sacrificed counts as a single temple-check; that is, depending on your starting dominion you may or may not increase dominion in the province. So, in effect saccing 3 slaves will mean the equivalent of 3 temples' dominion push. If I remember it right.

Turin · #3 October 7th, 2005, 02:45 PM

hmm I just did a quick count and on turn 15 I had ~ 300 troops in the first game vs qm.

In the second game I have on turn 26 ~650 troops . Now I guess qm killed certainly more than 400 of mine, so about 1k troops by turn 25.

spirokeat · #4 October 7th, 2005, 02:37 PM

Why winged shoes ?

Im wondering what the effect on the dominion calculation of stone idols in conjunction with two preaches would be.

How is dominion calculated. there would appear to be a few ways to add to it....pretender spread, prophet spread, temple spread, preach spread, direct preach. Troop spread (juggernaught)

Then you have stone idols and that demon lord who makes people lose faith.

Can their be only a single increase via personal spread...so for example a pretender spread would override a prohpet spread or will they stack ?

Spiro

shovah · #5 October 7th, 2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

spirokeat said:
Why winged shoes ?

Im wondering what the effect on the dominion calculation of stone idols in conjunction with two preaches would be.

How is dominion calculated. there would appear to be a few ways to add to it....pretender spread, prophet spread, temple spread, preach spread, direct preach. Troop spread (juggernaught)

Then you have stone idols and that demon lord who makes people lose faith.

Can their be only a single increase via personal spread...so for example a pretender spread would override a prohpet spread or will they stack ?

Spiro

because the shoes let them get where they are needed quickly

Alneyan · #6 October 7th, 2005, 03:06 PM

And the Winged Shoes help avoid destroying *your* Dominion. I wouldn't put Stone Idols on skeptics though: it sounds kind of redudant, as only one of those is the better bargain depending on your situation (the Skeptic is usually a lot cheaper, but it means one less capital-only commander, so if you are swimming in gems...).

Everything related to increasing/reducing Dominion stacks, for both sides, so you'd better bring in heavy forces to destroy a Dominion -10 quickly. I think the Priest level only affects how high you can go, so it wouldn't help here: Inquisitors ought to work a lot better than regular priests, however.

Still, if you are serious about taking down enemy Dominion soon, don't be a miser and deploy a bunch of priests, and assorted things (Pretender welcome).

spirokeat · #7 October 7th, 2005, 03:15 PM

Are we sure about priest level not affecting it ?

Looking at what it says about inquisitors it would indicate that their preist level is considered double for attacking enemy dominion. But if priest level only affects how high you can get your dominion up then it has no effect at all as you would have to be in positive dominion to increase your own up.

Spiro

Alneyan · #8 October 7th, 2005, 03:19 PM

I doubt we are sure about *anything* regarding Dominion: I only expressed my own opinion on the matter, hence the "I think" (and not "It is written, in the Codex of the First Ones").

Good point about the description for those Inquisitors. I'm afraid I'm in the dark about how they work exactly then.

Jurri · #9 October 7th, 2005, 03:29 PM

Somewhere is floating a pdf on dominion spread. Also KO commented on the matter at some point. Probably both can be found in that manual addenda that Liga was doing. You can't get that closer to the codex of the first ones, I think

Then there's the oral tradition... I bet if you made a thorought search you'd find all sorts of interesting stuff on the matter, and possibly even the two sources mentioned above.

Anyway, I think a priest's chance to get an increase on dominion is 10% times priest level. So, a level 4 inquisitor gets 80% in hostile dominion.