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Old October 19th, 2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Sugestions for OOB changes for 2.5 Supplement

I and Theodor during develop of our own OOB founds bugs in PT-91 Twardy thema. Sugestion what should be changed and why?

Polish OOB

- unit 018
name: PT91 => PT-91 Twardy ("hard" real polish name)
cost: 353 => 362
EW: 0 => 4 (they have new better than in T-72M1 SKO Drawa "fire control system" and electronics system "SSC-1 Obra" )
Weapon3: 12.7 WKM-B AAMG => 12.7 NSVT AAMG because WKM-B was used after 2000 year (Modification of NSVT for NATO standarts)
Steel and Heat: armour copied from T-72M1 (because firsts PT-91 Twardy was a improvment of this tanks so armour should be not worse than in this tank no info about new armour so we think is the same)
Reactive armour "ERAWA"
TF 14 => 4
TS 14 => 4
Top 12 => 2 (was not so good in the firsts model)
Smoke Dischargers 1=>4 ( On the foto you can see many smoke granade lanuchers on the both side of turent)

- unit 409
changed like before in unit018: name , EW , Weapon 3 , Steel and Heat armour , Smoke Dischargers
cost: 357 => 367
Reactive armour "ERAWA-2"
TF 15=>5
TS 15=>5
Top 12=>4 (was beter than in years 95-96 but we thing not so good)

- unit 408
changed like before in unit409: name , EW ,Steel and Heat armour and reactive armour , Smoke Dischargers
cost: 381 => 391
Weapon2: 7.62mm PKT CMG => UKM-2000 CMG (New polish Tank MG deep modification of PKT for NATO standarts in service after year 2000)

- unit 010
changed like before in unit408: EW , Weapon2 , Steel and Heat armour.
name: PT-91 Improved => PT-91 Twardy (we thing the name should be the same in futuure)
cost: 336 => 386
Vision 30 => 40 (should be not worse than in the same early models)
FC 50 => 35 ( we don't hear about plans of construction new SKO " Fire control system" so should be use the old)
Reactive armour:
HF 5 => 15
HS 5 => 15 ( We thing "ERAWA-2" Reactive armour" should be improvment in future meaby "ERAWA-3"?)
Smoke Dischargers 1=>4 ( In future should have more smoke granade lanuchers)

- unit 009 (insted of "germanized" PT-91 we sugest normal PT-91 Twardy we thing "germanization" plans was not serious)
changed like before in unit410: Weapon2 , FC , Steel and Heat armour.
name: PT-2001 Twardy => PT-91 Twardy
Avaible From: 1 112 => 1 110
cost: 415 => 378
Weapon1: 120mm L44 WG01 => 125mm PO-1+ Gun
Reactive armour:
HF 15 => 5
HS 15 => 5 (That is old "ERAWA-2" not improvment model used in future)
ROF: 6 => 7 (not worst than in previous models)
Smoke Dischargers 1=>4 ( In future should have more smoke granade lanuchers)

- unit 222
That is normal PT-91 Twardy from years 97-100 with KMT-6 so all parameters should be changed like before in unit409: EW , Weapon 3 , Steel and Heat armour , Smoke Dischargers , TF , TS , Top
cost: 367 => 377
Weapon1: 125mm PO-1+ Gun => 125mm PO-1 Gun (older model schould be worse gun)
Avaible From: 1 100 => 1 97
Avaible to: 12 120 => 12 100

- The OOB forgoten about PT-91 KMT-6 from another years. I have the proposition after changes of parameters copy unit 408 that tank equip with KMT-6 for years 2001-2009 and the unit 010 should be good tank with KMT-6 in years 2010-2020. Unit 018 should be good for create tank with KMT-6 in years 95-96 so the OOB need three new Twardy tanks units with KMT-6 antimine device


Maylasia OOB

-unit 500

First bugs in weapon 104 in Maylasia OOB is named 125mm D81 Pol03 but that is 125mm PO-2 Gun from polish OOB all the parameters as the same but a bug in Maylasia OOB AP Penetration is 0 should be 32 like in polish OOB the name of weapon should be changed 125mm D81 Pol03=>125mm PO-2 Gun

The unit

name: PT-91Z => PT-91M (The bug in designation without Twardy because this label used be polish army only)
cost: 334 => 390 (compared to cost in polish OOB)
speed 20 => 21 (new engine improved from 780 Mechanical horse to 1000Mh)
EW: 0 => 4 ( Polish improvment "SSP-1 Obra-3" system)
FC: 30 => 40 (like in Leclerc)
RF: 14 => 22 (like in Leclerc)
Stabiliser 4 => 5 (like in Leclerc)
Smoke Dischargers 1=>4 (have more smoke granade lanuchers)
Weapon2: 7.62mm PKT CMG => 7.62 FN-MAG CMG (with this CMG should be produced can be taken from Belgium OOB weapon 067)
Weapon3: 12.7 NSVT AAMG => .50 Browng AAMG
Steel and Heat: armour copied from T-72M1 in polish OOB(because PT-91 Twardy was a improvment of this tanks so armour should be not worse than in this tank no info about new armour so we think is the same)
Reactive armour "ERAWA-2"
HF 4=>5
HS 4=>5
TF 4=>5
TS 4=>5
Top 2=>4 (should be like in polish OOB)



Plese write this proposition of changes is good explain and is good for implementation in path.




"Halo , Gentelmens after discusions we made changes especialy in Malesian PT-91"
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