OT: Software copyright law?

Atrocities · #1 November 9th, 2005, 03:59 AM

Actually they should by law disclose the agreements PRIOR to purchase. Have any of you tried to return software to the place of purchase? They simply will not take it back. In most cases they will only exchange it. Is that not a violation of some agreement somewhere. Seems to me that most software manufactures say that if you do not agree to the terms of use, that you can return the software for a refund. But if the stores will not refund your money.... they have broken the terms for the agreement.

narf poit chez BOOM · #2 November 9th, 2005, 04:22 AM

Yeah, one person doesn't have the money to take a company to court, but a bunch of people do.

Wolfman77 · #3 November 9th, 2005, 11:03 AM

And that answers the first question of which law would supersede the other in court: The one that has the most money protecting it.

Atrocities · #4 November 9th, 2005, 07:14 PM

99% of all of the funds won in 99% of all class action lawsuits that are won or are settled end up going the trial lawyers.

American General Finance was once sued for improperly figuring interest on loans. It cost me around $440.00 according to the lawsuit. AG settled for nearly a 100 million or so and when it was all said and done, and mind you there were only about 2,000 plaintiffs, I got a check for, and I kid you not, $0.27.

AgentZero · #5 November 9th, 2005, 09:22 PM

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Atrocities said:
99% of all of the funds won in 99% of all class action lawsuits that are won or are settled end up going the trial lawyers.

American General Finance was once sued for improperly figuring interest on loans. It cost me around $440.00 according to the lawsuit. AG settled for nearly a 100 million or so and when it was all said and done, and mind you there were only about 2,000 plaintiffs, I got a check for, and I kid you not, $0.27.

Ouch!

Bet you felt great taking that down to the bank!

So I guess in the States they don't have those lovely little laws limiting the ammount lawyers can charge to a percentage of the total claim? You should look into getting one of those, they're dead handy.

Atrocities · #6 November 9th, 2005, 09:31 PM

I really believe that any licenses/agreements should be published at the place of sale PRIOR to purchas so that the buyer has an adiquite prepurchase chance review and decline the said licenses. Furthermore I believe that if you decline the license or agreement while installing the software the software should still be installed. Refusing to agree to an agreement or license after you bought the product is kinda stupid in my opinion. Afterall you did buy it without knowning there was such a license therefore you should have the right to say no to it and still be able to install the software you purchased.

AgentZero · #7 November 9th, 2005, 10:08 PM

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Atrocities said:
I really believe that any licenses/agreements should be published at the place of sale PRIOR to purchas so that the buyer has an adiquite prepurchase chance review and decline the said licenses. Furthermore I believe that if you decline the license or agreement while installing the software the software should still be installed. Refusing to agree to an agreement or license after you bought the product is kinda stupid in my opinion. Afterall you did buy it without knowning there was such a license therefore you should have the right to say no to it and still be able to install the software you purchased.

Well, I wouldn't go quite so far as to say that you should be able to decline the EULA, and still install it, but if you read the EULA and don't agree to it, then you can chose not to install it, then do whatever things you wanted to that the EULA prohibts (like archival copies), and then install the software afterwards, agreeing to the EULA since you've already done all the stuff it says you can't.