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December 5th, 2005, 01:06 PM
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Re: Super-Combatants
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It died to ONE stupid SEA DWELLING FUNGUS!
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Anemones aren't fungi, they're animals, like you, me, and the entire cast of Wings.
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you actually got an ettin mondragora from wish? it always tells me it can't give me that...
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No mondragoras. Only mandragoras. Mandragoras and blood slaves.
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December 5th, 2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Super-Combatants
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ya... i know about gifts from heaven. I think it is useless, although it is 0 gems. Maybe with a legion of astral random dwarven smiths or maybe not.)
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No, it has it's uses, you just need good precision. Wind Guide, Eyes of Aiming, Eagle Eyes, and Aim are all good ways to boost precision. And of course simply having air magic/natural precision, or best of all, heroic precision.
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Know what's even better? A target-rich environment. Aww, yeah.
Seriously, against a medium-sized contingent of relatively powerful troops, these things can be much more effective than Nether Darts. And they've got the raw firepower to seriously damage a Sphinx, which isn't all that small a target. Pity they lack that feebleminding side-effect.
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December 5th, 2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: Super-Combatants
Hmm. I'm now considering a batch of dwarven-booted Arco mystics with cybereyes.
Splat! Splat! Splat!
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December 5th, 2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: Super-Combatants
boltcutter, it can be a beautiful thing to see. Enemy's got a huge pile of ultra-buff white centaurs? Not any more... What, an army of devils? Throw up a storm, and squish.
I haven't tried it, but I imagine it should even make short work of pack of Tartarians.
Actually, my entry into the SC tournament a while back was an air queen decked out to repeatedly drop gifts on her enemies. She was doing well, until an unlucky round-1 MR roll left her on the wrong team. So, it should even work on the really big guys.
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December 5th, 2005, 08:50 PM
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the problem of course is making sure the gifts hit, and, even more difficult, making sure they hit something valuable. Given the low accuracy, and not really that great an area of affect, I've seen gifts from heaven do nothing of consequence more often than not. Other spells are more... dependable.
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December 5th, 2005, 09:08 PM
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Re: Super-Combatants
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the problem of course is making sure the gifts hit, and, even more difficult, making sure they hit something valuable. Given the low accuracy, and not really that great an area of affect, I've seen gifts from heaven do nothing of consequence more often than not. Other spells are more... dependable.
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Nothing the right sort of commander can't get around. Precision -3 really isn't all that problematic at point-blank range, and it's nothing a single turn of casting and a smidgen of air or nature won't remedy.
Also, consider the above "army of devils" scenario. They'll hit something. The gifts may only have an area of 1 each, but anything in those areas is dead, dead, dead. Unless it's mirrored, lucky, or has a Tarrasqueload of HP.
I'm not saying the spell is particularly cost-effective against mid-level hordes, unless your caster has two or three extra earth levels. But I am saying that, given the proper circumstances, it can be a lot more reliable than more accurate Evocation spells.
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December 6th, 2005, 12:30 AM
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Re: Super-Combatants
Fungus, Anemone, Whatever.
and yes, you can wish for an ettin mandragora, although I wouldn't except maybe in SP.
Uhh... point blank gifts would be good, but sort of pointless. Blade wind would work at that range too.
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December 6th, 2005, 01:58 AM
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point blank Gifts, LOL - this some suicide gambit?
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December 6th, 2005, 03:43 AM
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Re: Super-Combatants
man i was mispelling mandragora this hwole time.
so I havce this SC ettin mandragora kickin ***, basically totalled the largest army nearly single handedly... (I decided to seige a capitol and just fight the attacking forces) he had 675 kills.
hes decked out for AoE killin'. ember, that poison sck on a stick, the twin spear (death,) amon hotep, sun helm, robes of callius, boots of quickness and an amulet of antimagic...
what should kill him? he gets hit by "maggots" and dissapears at the end of combat.
I guess theres a big downfall to making an SC of an undead.
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December 6th, 2005, 07:34 AM
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I keep hearing about these Mandragora ettins. But how do you get them normally? Is it a very lucky Pangaea CW free summon?
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