SEV on Steam? - Page 4

Arkcon · #1 December 13th, 2005, 06:15 PM

Phoenix-D said:
"Arkcon: SEV is *not* going to be published on STEAM at the moment, so asking would be silly. Its a hypothetical question. "

True enough, there's nothing on the Strategy First press release quoted at the start of this thread that specifically mentions SEV ... but then again, it doesn't mention any titles at all! OK, so my question changes, "What does STEAM mean to Strategy First, the distributor of Malfador's product SEV ..." But the query is still kinda there.

Oversway · #2 December 13th, 2005, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Updates: http://malfador.com
Serverlist: http://seiv.pbw.cc

What's so hard about that?

What if malfador and/or shrapnel go out of business? What if you lose or break your cds? What if the pwb server crashes? I'm not at all thrilled about steam but some of the questions seem to apply to more traditional games delivery as well. The point about transferring games is a good one, though. Then again, most software is technically licensed, not sold, right? The L in EULA

Fyron · #3 December 13th, 2005, 08:52 PM

If Malfador goes out of business, the patch is still available all over the web. Playing and updating the game is not dependent on a prorprietary DRM server scheme.

If PBW crashes, you can still play by email, or set up a replacement server easily. It is not dependent on proprietary DRM to play multiplayer, as Steam games are. Everybody has a full copy of the last turn's savegame, so there is little need for any downtime. When PBW was down for a few months a year or two ago, games continued via email or via PBW replacement site scripts. None of this is possible with Steam.

If you break your CD, you use your backup CD. With no shoddy DRM technology, exercising legal fair use rights is easy.

The license for the game is easily transferable. Delete your installation, give the CD away or sell it, bam, its transfered.

dmm · #4 December 14th, 2005, 07:49 PM

1) I know it is hard for some people to fathom, but I have computers that are not connected to ANYTHING and they are still quite useful and fun.

2) What about installing the game on multiple computers in your home, so you can play on whatever one is not currently being used by someone else? That's fair use. Does steam allow that?

zircher · #5 December 15th, 2005, 01:23 AM

If SEV became a STEAM only product. I'd drop it like a leperous midget. I've had to deal with STEAM in the past when my kids tried (and failed) to install HL. I vowed never ever to touch it again. Even when titles like Ragdoll Kung Fu came along (something that I wanted for a long long time) I decided to not purchase it because it was a STEAM only download.

I'm dead set against STEAM in any form.
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wilhil · #6 December 15th, 2005, 01:57 AM

have you tried steam recently?

I used to be a complainer about it, and to tell you the truth the early versions sucked, it sucks when you are forced to install it along with a game (such as when you buy HL2, read link I did in previous posts), it just plain sucks in any way to isntall it apart from:

installing from the internet, if you just do the normal download of steam, it installs very quickly and easily, you sign in, and then you can download easily and for free, any games you have already bought.

Personally it took ages for me to install HL2 with steam, and register it, I hated the process, but once it is there, BLISS!

converting games, like if you have HL classic installed, and install steam, and try to convert it, that is hell, and from what you said, I am guessing that is what you mean.. but it is something you only have to do the once.

Once the game is registered with steam, it is brilliant, if you get a new pc, all you have to do is download steam, type in account info, and double click the game, within mins (providing fast connection, it is all playable with patches configured..

not to try and be bad, but I was such a whiner saying how much I hated it, but once you realise how good it is, then you can understand it truly... infact, I will try right now, I am going to get a new pc, install steam, and play a game, I am going to record a video of it all right now so no one can complain about it!

as for everyone saying about going out of business, thinking about disaster.... just forget it, i will get slack for saying this, but we can deal with that whenever that ever happens...

Kamog · #7 December 15th, 2005, 03:03 AM

I agree. I don't always have internet connection and I'd like to play my games without having to be online...

Do you have to be connected all the time to play, or is it just a one-time thing?

wilhil · #8 December 15th, 2005, 03:09 AM

well, im ill, cant sleep, so I did it...

http://media.putfile.com/steam77

double click on the video when it loads to go in full screen, my res is 1280x1024, it may appear blurey if you use a smaller monitor, it was taken in real time at the full res.

also, when i was in game, ofr some reason it recorded it in the top left corner only... I was playing in full screen.

wilhil · #9 December 15th, 2005, 03:11 AM

I beleive you do not have to be connected, as long as you do not sign out... I am not 100% sure on this, but I used to use it on my laptop, and apart from when I was at home, I had no connection, and I did play it away from here