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		| Cainehill said: Oh - how do you specify which Twin Spear is given?  I keep getting the blood/astral one every time doing my tests.
 
 |  Oh...  hmm you know I hadnt run into that problem yet.  I've been assigning artifacts by name but clearly that wont work for the Twin Spear since the name is exactly the same.  I suppose I will have to do it by item number?  How do you get the item number?  Ctrl-I on the info screen?
 
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		| And btw Ironhawk - great idea making it a couple of near-useless commanders - sounds like they'll be good for, mmm, Fever Fetish bait at most  where two scouts would be too awesome for nations that don't have regular / cheap scouts. 
 |  I'd planned on just using scouts but then the cursed artifact problem cropped up and it made a lot of sense to make some nuetral-effect units.  What I really hope is to see someone try and make something out of these units.  Like an early-game prophet or something hahahaha!!
 
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		| Another awesome deviant game plan - thanks Ironhawk, this and CoW have both caught the imagination for very different reasons.  
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		| Cainehill said: Oh - how do you specify which Twin Spear is given?  I keep getting the blood/astral one every time doing my tests.
 
 |  Unfortunately my efforts to assign the death based Twin Spear have failed.  I just posted in the modding forums for help but given my experience I think the problem may be unsolvable.  We should start thinking about what item to replace that spear with...  I'm certainly open to suggestions on this one! |  
	
		
	
	
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	Unfortunately my efforts to assign the death based Twin Spear have failed.  I just posted in the modding forums for help but given my experience I think the problem may be unsolvable.  We should start thinking about what item to replace that spear with...  I'm certainly open to suggestions on this one!Quote: 
	
		| Cainehill said: Oh - how do you specify which Twin Spear is given?  I keep getting the blood/astral one every time doing my tests.
 
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 |  I've suggested a Wraith Crown to Ironhawk, for the following reasons:
 
Like the Twin Spear, it gives a bit of undead in a battle, and with Ermor starting with the Body Ethereal spell, the etherealness isn't that big a deal, especially with human pretenders / no dead themes.  Also, nice and thematic for Ermor.  Posting it here also to see if anyone has objections.  (Second choice : ring of sorcery.  Third : Soulstone of the Wolves    )
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 Oh - may I suggest changing the starting provinces in the .map file before the game?  That way, no one knows where the other nations are, since only the host needs the modified map file.
 
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		| Morkilus said: <whining> It's gonna take 2 hours to download that map. </whining>
 
 |  It's the map we are going to use, guys     Everyone needs to download it so that they have the .tga file.
 
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		| Cainehill said: Oh - may I suggest changing the starting provinces in the .map file before the game?  That way, no one knows where the other nations are, since only the host needs the modified map file.
 
 |  The .map file that everyone currently has is only the version released for testing.  Starting locations for all nations were just some random provs I clicked on with the mouse.  I am sending the .map away now to a third party (who isnt playing in this game) who will randomize all the start locations.  That way no one will have any advanced knowledge.
 
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 twin spear of death is the good one (cause it doesn't horror mark you)
 the real advantage of twin spears is that they are a long weapon with an interesting effect - but also they give luck.
 
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 I got my pretender worked out.
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				 Re: New MP Game - Artifact Game - open!! 
 I wonder how's it possible that Caelum wasn't claimed yet?I therefore claim Caelum.
 
 The rules specify a human pretender and non pop killing dom. themes. Are there additional rules?
 
 Where can I d/l the artifact mod?
 When should pretender be ready?
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