Pythium Strategies

[shovah]

that sounds like a good idea (does casting from items give low fatigue?

[archaeolept]

communicants die like flies, if there is ever a battle that isn't completely lopsided, and so you'ld just be setting yourself up to lose the wands.

besides which, communicants often don't seem to want to cast spells, even before they fatique to a 100

[shovah]

aww :C i liked that idea, how bout a bow of war on each?

[Endoperez]

When Master casts a spell that targets just him (range: Caster), it affects the communicants as well. Try Phoenix Pyre...

I haven't tried this out in a long time. It might have changed or worked differently. However, there were some crazy things one could do with Jotun Jarls carrying Slave Matrices...

Never tested that, though. Lots of work for few tricks isn't worth it IMO. Jotunheim doesn't exactly shine as a Communion nation...

[Sandman]

In my very limited experience, slave matrices don't work when placed on non-mages. Plus, you're going to have morale issues with a commander-heavy setup like that.

[archaeolept]

both those points are correct. It is certainly possible to use the "slave buff" effect to create mini-SCs, but it is usually a lot of work, and often a fragile setup.

communicants w/ a few buffs and phoenix pyre is a good plan though - still a lot of work to get going - and don't forget that your own mages have to run away...

[Vicious Love]

archaeolept said:
both those points are correct. It is certainly possible to use the "slave buff" effect to create mini-SCs, but it is usually a lot of work, and often a fragile setup.

communicants w/ a few buffs and phoenix pyre is a good plan though - still a lot of work to get going - and don't forget that your own mages have to run away...

Yeah, but the advantages are tremendous: you can have multiple masters cast all their buffs within 1-2 rounds, you can safely distribute the fatigue, you can put together combos which would be impossible for any individual unit save a rainbow Pretender(and would be impossible to script for any one mage, anyway), and, best of all, you can have a handful of astral-1 mages cast Astral Shield, Resist Magic, Personal Luck and Astral Weapon without making any of your SCs susceptible to Magic Duel. And since access to matrices means access to hammers, the setup is usually strikingly cost-effective, even if you lose the occasional matrix, slave, or master.

[shovah]

Endoperez said:
When Master casts a spell that targets just him (range: Caster), it affects the communicants as well. Try Phoenix Pyre...

I haven't tried this out in a long time. It might have changed or worked differently. However, there were some crazy things one could do with Jotun Jarls carrying Slave Matrices...

Never tested that, though. Lots of work for few tricks isn't worth it IMO. Jotunheim doesn't exactly shine as a Communion nation...

really weird i was just thinking of that phoenix pyre a while ago (today) one MAJOR advantage (if it would work) would be if the master got picked out by duel or such he could spread the fatigue of revival among his comunicants (but im not 100% sure)

[Vicious Love]

shovah said:
really weird i was just thinking of that phoenix pyre a while ago (today) one MAJOR advantage (if it would work) would be if the master got picked out by duel or such he could spread the fatigue of revival among his comunicants (but im not 100% sure)

I always meant to test that out. I'd concluded that the only simultaneously efficient and "safe" use for the Forbidden Light was to stick it in that archdemon with the astral/fire combo, give him a bunch of reinvigoration and defense items, attach a retinue of blind communicants and bodyguards to him, and send him off to mind duel, blind, and incinerate to his heart's content. I still don't know whether or not this would actually work. And I imagine the communicants would drop off like flies, if one Phoenix Pyre 'splosion were to start off a chain reaction.

[shovah]

spread em out (phoenix power brings u back to life neway)