Multiple attacks on Commander question

[OG_Gleep]

Ok, that makes sense. I totally botched that one, looking now I see that there is actually a different value for say the sword of quickness; nbr of attacks.

There are multiple items that speed you up as well as spells. Do these stack?

For example:

Sword of Quickness, Jade Armor, Boots of Quickness + orders set to cast Haste (or whatever the personal verison is).

Would this give you:

Base round - 2 Attacks (Sword of Swift)
+2 attacks (Jade Armor)
+2 Attacks (Boots of Quick)
+2 Attacks (Spell)

For a total of 8 attacks per turn.

Assuming this is true, this does not mean he could kill 8 enemies per turn right? Maximum in this config would be 4 kills per round?

[Endoperez]

Boots of Quickness, Jade Armor and the spell Quickness all give the same effect (that of the Quickness spell). Because it's the same effect, it doesn't stack.

There are three other ways of acquiring quickness, and at least two of these stacks with the common quickness. They are the Heroic Quickness Hall of Fame ability, which increases over time, Water 9 blessing, and the Champion's Trident.
The Heroic Quickness stacks with normal quickness, as it gives a percentual ability.
Water 9 blessing gives a blessed unit 50% chance of having a second action each round. It's not sure whether this is random or deteministic (2 actions on the first turn, then 1, then 2, then 1 , then ...). This also stacks with normal quickness, AND with Heroic Quickness.
Champion's Trident either gives the normal quickness, as Jade Armor/Boots of Quickness, or yet another Quickness ability that stacks with them. I think it doesn't stack, but I'm not sure about it.

[thejeff]

I believe Jade Armor and Boots of Quickness duplicate the quickness spell and thus do not stack with it, or each other.

Heroic quickness does stack, as does W9 bless.

Also, though it wouldn't apply to a single weapon, but apply to the Nataraja mentioned above, all attacks in single action will target units in the same square.

[Jurri]

Are you guys certain that the water 9 blessing stacks with regular quickness? (Like, actually tested this.) 'Cause I believe I've seen testimonials to the opposite effect on this forum earlier.

[halfzware]

the w9 bless doesn't give the same bonuses as regular quickness (+3 att/def), its a different effect. Not sure about herioc quickness though.

[Endoperez]

Champion's Trident doesn't stack with normal quickness:
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... and it seems Quickness and Water Blessing work in mysterious ways.
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Also, it seems I have actually forgotten some of the information I once had:
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I had degenerated into thinking it was actually random!
That last thread mentions Heroic Quickness as well, but it all seems too complicated for anyone to grasp. E.g. the whole thread was started because Communion Master seemed to affect Quickness.

[archaeolept]

no, zooko was wrong, as W9 doesn't give 2 attacks per round.

W9 and the spell should stack - i don't think there's a 2 action limit from that, but i could be wrong i guess. The heroic ability stacks w/ anything, and can lead to some very nice effects

[Cainehill]

archaeolept said:
no, zooko was wrong, as W9 doesn't give 2 attacks per round.

W9 and the spell should stack - i don't think there's a 2 action limit from that, but i could be wrong i guess. The heroic ability stacks w/ anything, and can lead to some very nice effects

Yep nothing like a Jotun Herse with Heroic Quickness 200%+, equipped with Soulstone of the Wolves and scripted to cast spells; even without Jade Armor or a W9 blessing, that's a lot on wolves on the field. (Had this going in one game - sadly, the nature blessing wound up making him go berserk eventually.)

[shovah]

i thought the soulstone just summoned once then nothing else? if not then im trying it.

[Endoperez]

Cainehill said:

Yep nothing like a Jotun Herse with Heroic Quickness 200%+, equipped with Soulstone of the Wolves and scripted to cast spells; even without Jade Armor or a W9 blessing, that's a lot on wolves on the field. (Had this going in one game - sadly, the nature blessing wound up making him go berserk eventually.)

You know, in the Calling All Players game I missed Ritual of Rebirthing my original prophet by two turns. Three turns ago. He was over 100% when he died... Sometimes I really hate how pretenders take space in HoF when they don't merit heroic abilities.