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Old February 10th, 2006, 08:09 PM
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Do you know of any arab country that condems terrorism?
I recall more than a few, but very few of them actually meant it.

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Now, do you know of any western country that condems terrorism? (try all of them)
Glib. Do you know of any Western country that profits from terrorism?

Unless you're sticking with your definition of terrorism as "a deliberate military attack on a civilian target for political ends". In which case, as Cainehill said, I can think of plenty of acts of terrorism openly perpetrated by Western nations, but that's where that semantics barrier comes into play again.

Assuming that's not the case, let me just hypothesize that, had they the entire freakin' US Military at their disposal, the Hamas would never have resorted to terrorism, either. Though they might just have indirectly orchestrated terrorist actions in hostile nations, and secretly sold guns to terrorist groups. But that's another one of those things that's in the distant, nay, ancient past, and could never happen today. Nope. Nosiree Bob. Because the world's voters are wiser, and less inclined to take things at face value, nor to elect someone just because he does a passable cowboy impression.

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Because "Freedom" has a positive connetation to it, and "Terrorism" does not. You are implying that something which is negative, is actually positive.
Just because they're murdering innocents and using utterly illegitimate means, doesn't mean they aren't fighting for freedom. Nor even that the nation or pseudonation for which they're fighting doesn't deserve its freedom.

Still, this is another one of those often meaningless terms that gets bandied about pretty much at random. Ya just don't see that many terrorists fighting for freedom these days.
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Old February 10th, 2006, 08:32 PM
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This discussion is no longer related to the game Dominions... any chance we can get this moved out of here?
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Old February 11th, 2006, 07:18 AM
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This discussion is no longer related to the game Dominions... any chance we can get this moved out of here?
Well, it does say "OT" in the title.
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But it give the wrong impression of the forum IMHO altho its not like we are prently overloaded with OT's.

Ive posted a couple of times that if you cant discuss it in dominions terms (as it was started) then dont be surprised if it goes away. Probably it would be moved from the Dominions forum to the shrapnel general discussion area. If it remained there or got deleted for being too flaming up to the moderators of that forum.

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Old February 11th, 2006, 12:27 PM
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That's understood, I'm just not sure I see the purpose of that sort of compartmentalization. This thread seems less likely to degenerate into a full-scale flame war than a number of perfectly on-topic past posts, both recent and otherwise.
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Not if you out-post those who argue.

I have still only played the demo, and therefore am far from having a complete knowledge of the game, but just out of interest, maybe there are some globals? I don't know any of them, but I would like to hear opinions.
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That reminds me, Raging Hearts! That, and Imprint Minds. They should work much better if the province's dominion is negative, ie the populace doesn't believe to the cause of the controlling nation.
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