Which races benift from luck 1

[Vicious Love]

Both Jotunheim and Mictlan have easy access Crossbreeding, which benefits from luck. Jotunheim has some of the best heroes in the game, while Mictlan's are merely decent. Nothing spectacular, but they give access to additional paths, including the blood/air combo.

T'ien Ch'i's immortals are well worth the luck scale, as are Ermor's heroes, though the latter are kind of hit-and-miss. Which is not to say that Mortius or whatsisface are misses, simply that Etimmu is unquestionably a hit, and can give you a tremendous edge in the early game.

R'lyeh require a luck scale. If you don't get Cthugul, you'll need either the Gift of Health, the Chalice, or a bunch of water breathing faerie queens or priestesses just to support your perenially feebleminded void summoners, and you still won't summon particularly effectively. Besides, the other two heroes are pretty sweet, as well, particularly the aboleth.

Man is the only nation with inexhaustible heroes, but they're really nothing to write home about. Beats only getting Ulm's heroes, though.

[OG_Gleep]

Does anyone simply ignore the heros? I see a lot of threads that talk about misfortune as an easy way to get points.

[Arralen]

You don't need luck scale to get the heros. Unless you go for missfortune-3, you will get them, and with some luck even earlier than your neighbour who's 120 points in the hole because he bought luck-1. You can't really buy luck, you know

Order-3, Missfortune-1 is a common combo. You still have a decent chance for heros, random events are reduced by 10% and chance for bad events is 10% higher. In practice, the overall reduction in events is much more noticable than the boost i bad events.

[OG_Gleep]

Right you don't need luck. You can still get it with -1 or even -2 misfortune. But, since there are multiple heros, and the gain past luck 1 seems to be small (i think it was less than 20% from luck 3 to 1), it seems like the best choice to try and get the one you wanted.

[Cainehill]

Then again, the CB mod has increased the benefit of luck, as each level of luck increases the likelihood that any given random event is a rare/special one. Similarly it increases the likelihood that an event is good rather than bad, leading me to often take Turmoil-3, Luck-3.

I'm not sure it's competitive doing so, especially on a large map (where the income loss for turmoil in 100+ provinces outweighs the benefits of a maximum 3 lucky events a turn), but on a small map it's a nearer trade : getting 1500 gold and a magic item, or even 500 gold, in the first dozen turns can really help a player to surge in the opening game.

More importantly, it can be a lot of fun.

[OG_Gleep]

I had never tried that setup, but recently have, and I have to say when your right your right. All the extra gem and gold adds up...big time.

Have you noticed that turmoil 3 luck 2 can lead to really really bad results? The effects of luck 3 greatly reduces the impact of big negtaive events.

[castigated]

the first 10 or so games i played (mostly single player), i played with turmoil 3 and luck 3. it didn't seem all that bad, except that i didn't have a consistent gold flow. it was mroe spurty.