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February 18th, 2006, 12:53 AM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
Does anyone simply ignore the heros? I see a lot of threads that talk about misfortune as an easy way to get points.
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February 18th, 2006, 05:23 AM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
You don't need luck scale to get the heros. Unless you go for missfortune-3, you will get them, and with some luck  even earlier than your neighbour who's 120 points in the hole because he bought luck-1. You can't really buy luck, you know
Order-3, Missfortune-1 is a common combo. You still have a decent chance for heros, random events are reduced by 10% and chance for bad events is 10% higher. In practice, the overall reduction in events is much more noticable than the boost i bad events.
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February 19th, 2006, 06:34 PM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
Right you don't need luck. You can still get it with -1 or even -2 misfortune. But, since there are multiple heros, and the gain past luck 1 seems to be small (i think it was less than 20% from luck 3 to 1), it seems like the best choice to try and get the one you wanted.
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February 19th, 2006, 08:57 PM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
Then again, the CB mod has increased the benefit of luck, as each level of luck increases the likelihood that any given random event is a rare/special one. Similarly it increases the likelihood that an event is good rather than bad, leading me to often take Turmoil-3, Luck-3.
I'm not sure it's competitive doing so, especially on a large map (where the income loss for turmoil in 100+ provinces outweighs the benefits of a maximum 3 lucky events a turn), but on a small map it's a nearer trade : getting 1500 gold and a magic item, or even 500 gold, in the first dozen turns can really help a player to surge in the opening game.
More importantly, it can be a lot of fun. 
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February 26th, 2006, 11:11 PM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
I had never tried that setup, but recently have, and I have to say when your right your right. All the extra gem and gold adds up...big time.
Have you noticed that turmoil 3 luck 2 can lead to really really bad results? The effects of luck 3 greatly reduces the impact of big negtaive events.
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February 27th, 2006, 12:01 AM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
the first 10 or so games i played (mostly single player), i played with turmoil 3 and luck 3. it didn't seem all that bad, except that i didn't have a consistent gold flow. it was mroe spurty.
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February 27th, 2006, 12:48 AM
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Re: Which races benift from luck 1
Base game or CB?
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