OT: BSG Discussion

geoschmo · #1 February 24th, 2006, 06:55 PM

I also don't have a problem with there being small colonies scattered around that were offshoots of the Twelve Colonies. People complain about that from the orginal series, but it never was a problem for me. Even planets that the twelve colonies weren't aware of. Certain types of people have always tended towards living far away from population centers, and they might not want everyone knowing where they are.

Suicide Junkie · #2 February 24th, 2006, 07:35 PM

Exactly.

The only sensible numbers are:
Zero, One, Infinity.

If they've already got *twelve* colonies, more is not at all far-fetched.

ZeroAdunn · #3 February 24th, 2006, 09:13 PM

I meant right form the perspective of the series. It has already been stated that earth type planets are rare. Hence the plot of "Water". I am not apposed to other human colonies, I am apposed to large space faring civilizations in the show. It removes the feel of the last humans out there searching for a way to survive. Even with the promise of earth, we have no way of knowing what they will find when they get there, wheras the discovery of other human colonies (especially advanced or well populated ones) kinda cheapens the deal. I don't mind finding a small colony of humans or something, but the consequences for galactica discovering them would have to be explorered, as I don't think the cylons are going to take kindly to more humans.

geoschmo · #4 February 24th, 2006, 09:22 PM

Yeah, "Earth type" planets in the BSG universe are exceedingly rare. Except for the twelve in close proximity to each other that became The Colonies.

My sarcasm isn't directed at you Z, just at the inconsistency of that particular plot device. Maybe the reason they are so rare in the rest of the galaxy is that they are all concentrated in one little area. Law of averages and all.

Azselendor · #5 February 26th, 2006, 01:47 AM

Earth-Planets aren't rare in BSG, they occur every season finale!

As doe the 12 colonies, I surmise they were spread across a few planets and several habitable moons. A star system with 12 planets is just hard to believe.

Randallw · #6 February 26th, 2006, 02:29 AM

What I want to know is why we only ever see Caprica. What's happening on the other 11 planets?.

Black_Knyght · #7 February 26th, 2006, 05:26 AM

A quick thought, from a " Devil's Advocate " point of view -

Who said anything about there being twelve readilly habitable planets in the Colonial system ? What are the chances that " X " number of them were terraformed to suit the needs of the colonists? That all of them were even conventionally sized planets, instead of large, convertable planetoids or moons ?

Just thinking out loud.......

geoschmo · #8 February 26th, 2006, 10:45 AM

You all seem to be assuming that the twelve colonies are in one star system. I had always assumed they were in different, but nearby systems. Is there something in the show that says one way or the other?

One star system is pretty unbelievble. Even if you are talking about terraformed worlds. For there to be twelve suitable workds they'd have to either be so close together they'd be interfering with each others orbits, or so far apart that most of them would be outside the range of tolerable conditions for human life. I guess a few could be moons, but it's pretty hard to imagine a system with enough moons that are large enough to hold human-life supporting atmospheres in the proper range of distance form the sun.

I'm not saying the show isn't intending us to believe the twelve colonies are in one system, although I don't remember actually hearing that, but it's not very feasible.

Renegade 13 · #9 February 26th, 2006, 04:16 PM

My interpretation of that episode (just saw it for the first time last night!) was that the constellations they saw were representative of the 12 colonies, but not indicative of their actual physical locations.

Think of it this way: If the constellations were actually indicative of the locations of the colonies, it would be extremely simple using some basic math to determine an approximate volume of space to search for Earth. After all, you have the point of view of Earth (presumably) and the locations of 12 points that are visible from Earth. Easy enough to find.

I think they were just saying "Hey, if we can find where these constellations appear to us as they appear here, Earth will be near!" Noting also certain landmarks such as the Lagoon Nebula. Though that particular sighting bothered me a lot, since the Lagoon nebula is not anywhere near that bright nor large in the sky...on the contrary, I don't think it's even visible to the naked eye...bad science!

My biggest question from that episode is; how the hell did they get out of where they were when they saw the constellations? There was no visible exit point!