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February 26th, 2006, 05:26 AM
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Re: OT: BSG Discussion
A quick thought, from a " Devil's Advocate " point of view -
Who said anything about there being twelve readilly habitable planets in the Colonial system ? What are the chances that " X " number of them were terraformed to suit the needs of the colonists? That all of them were even conventionally sized planets, instead of large, convertable planetoids or moons ?
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February 26th, 2006, 10:45 AM
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You all seem to be assuming that the twelve colonies are in one star system. I had always assumed they were in different, but nearby systems. Is there something in the show that says one way or the other?
One star system is pretty unbelievble. Even if you are talking about terraformed worlds. For there to be twelve suitable workds they'd have to either be so close together they'd be interfering with each others orbits, or so far apart that most of them would be outside the range of tolerable conditions for human life. I guess a few could be moons, but it's pretty hard to imagine a system with enough moons that are large enough to hold human-life supporting atmospheres in the proper range of distance form the sun.
I'm not saying the show isn't intending us to believe the twelve colonies are in one system, although I don't remember actually hearing that, but it's not very feasible.
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February 26th, 2006, 02:40 PM
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Re: OT: BSG Discussion
There is not a need for assumption, as they are clearly shown to be in different _constellations_ entirely in the episode where they open the ancient observatory in the tomb of Athena.
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February 26th, 2006, 03:05 PM
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There is not a need for assumption, as they are clearly shown to be in different _constellations_ entirely in the episode where they open the ancient observatory in the tomb of Athena.
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I don't think that was saying the constellations were the actual star charts of the locations of the twelve colonies, although it's been a while. I'll have to pay more attention when they rerun that episode. My recollection was just that the constellations were representative of the twelve colonies, and if they could find the planet who's starfield matched the constellations in the observatory they would have found earth.
I believe the Zodiac constellations are scattered accross our sky. If they were star charts of the Twelve Colonies then we would be located in the midst of them, not at the end of a long journey as they seem to present in the series, would we not?
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February 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: OT: BSG Discussion
The whole point was to get a map to earth. The map is pretty useless if it has no bearing on the real galaxy.  I do recall them saying that they would find earth when they found the position in space where the sky looked like what it did in the observatory.
"The scriptures say that when the 13th tribe landed on Earth, they looked up into the heavens and saw their 12 brothers." - Starbuck
"There is a place where you can look up into the sky and see the consellations of the 12 colonies." - President
Then there is talk of Lagoon nebula and having a map and a direction.
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February 26th, 2006, 03:43 PM
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I still think you are being too literal. Those quotes don't state unequivically that the constellations mark the positions of the colonies.
It's like the 13th colony gets to earth and looks at the stars. They see a grouping that looks like a bull and one that looks like two fish and they say, "Hey, that's our brothers Leo and Pices." That doesn't nessecarily mean that those constellations are where the colonies are located. Just that they found shapes in the sky that were representative of the other colonies.
Someone stading on earth looking at the twelve zodiac constellations would be closer to some of those stars then some of those stars are to each other. If the colonies are actually in those constellations they shold have found Earth already. For that matter they should have never lost it.
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They were very literal in the episode... I'm just going by what all of them said, not applying any interpretation. Did you see the quotes I edited in before you posted?
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