OT: BSG Discussion

geoschmo · #1 February 26th, 2006, 07:13 PM

But you are missing the point Fyron, that is the entire point.

They do not say the constellations mark the positions of the colonies in any quote the you have provided. They do not say the colonies are in the constellations. They do not say any of the stars in the contellations are the stars which the colonies orbit. You may be right that they do state these things in some scene that I can't remember and that you have not quoted, and if that's the case I will reevaluate my position. But with the quotes that you have provided, and in the scenes that I can recall myself, I am the one going by what they actually say, not you. You are the one adding your interpretation to their actual statements.

Sorry if I'm coming off as pedantic here, but hey it's been a while since we've wasted a bunch of time on a pointless disagreement. I appreciate any opportunity to tell you when you are wrong.

Fyron · #2 February 26th, 2006, 08:47 PM

I think we have been talking about totally different things here... I do see that I made an erroneous assertion about the planets being in the constellations several hours ago, but I wasn't even thinking of that in the last few posts. I was only talking about using the constellations as a means to determine a fixed viewing point based on observing the "sky," responding to posts in a similar vein.

geoschmo · #3 February 26th, 2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
I was only talking about using the constellations as a means to determine a fixed viewing point based on observing the "sky," responding to posts in a similar vein.

well, that's what I've been saying all along. I guess we agree then. Glad that settled.

Azselendor · #4 February 26th, 2006, 11:54 PM

The funny part is that the constellations are not viewable all at the same time, thus they couldn't be on earth. But this implies something significant.

At some point, people on earth would have journeyed back to Kobol or prior to the Exodus, Earth was already visited. This is perhaps one of the few ways that a map to earth would exist on kobol as depicted. It may also imply that the settlers to earth didn't know where the 12 colonies settled, but hoped the 12 colonies would know where kobol was as well.

Downloaded was supposed to have a scene dealing with next stop in the journey, looks like it got cut.

Azselendor · #5 February 27th, 2006, 12:01 AM

I made a minor mistake, What I ment to say is that at no time are all the constellations all viewable at the same time at any point on earth. Thus the map is not accurate on distances or locations.

Don't think of the map in terms of a map, but a puzzle game. In order to proceed to eachs tage of the puzzle, you must solve the prior. The Map on Kobol depicts the 12 constellations humans drew to represent the 12 colonies. This, however, contains as many landmarks and locations that the Colonials might recognize and thus be able to plot a course to earth based upon comparing relative distances between known objects depicted in the Map on Kobol to their down starcharts.

Suicide Junkie · #6 February 27th, 2006, 01:30 PM

Q) What does visibility (to the naked eye) have to do with anything?

First of all, we are talking interstellar spaceage tech here.
Making a map of the sky has already been done now. 3D maps, no less.

Azselendor · #7 February 27th, 2006, 04:05 PM

Actually it means a lot as the map on kobol does not represent the true star locations thus cannot be used accurately for stellar navigation and the measurement of distances.

However, what makes the map useful is 2 things

1.) Known landmarks such as the lagoon nebulae.
2.) Stellar Constellations can be used to verify if the planet is earth or not.

The problem is galactica doesn't know about #2.