OT: BSG Discussion

[Fyron]

I think we have been talking about totally different things here... I do see that I made an erroneous assertion about the planets being in the constellations several hours ago, but I wasn't even thinking of that in the last few posts. I was only talking about using the constellations as a means to determine a fixed viewing point based on observing the "sky," responding to posts in a similar vein.

[geoschmo]

Imperator Fyron said:
I was only talking about using the constellations as a means to determine a fixed viewing point based on observing the "sky," responding to posts in a similar vein.

well, that's what I've been saying all along. I guess we agree then. Glad that settled.

[Azselendor]

The funny part is that the constellations are not viewable all at the same time, thus they couldn't be on earth. But this implies something significant.

At some point, people on earth would have journeyed back to Kobol or prior to the Exodus, Earth was already visited. This is perhaps one of the few ways that a map to earth would exist on kobol as depicted. It may also imply that the settlers to earth didn't know where the 12 colonies settled, but hoped the 12 colonies would know where kobol was as well.

Downloaded was supposed to have a scene dealing with next stop in the journey, looks like it got cut.

[Azselendor]

I made a minor mistake, What I ment to say is that at no time are all the constellations all viewable at the same time at any point on earth. Thus the map is not accurate on distances or locations.

Don't think of the map in terms of a map, but a puzzle game. In order to proceed to eachs tage of the puzzle, you must solve the prior. The Map on Kobol depicts the 12 constellations humans drew to represent the 12 colonies. This, however, contains as many landmarks and locations that the Colonials might recognize and thus be able to plot a course to earth based upon comparing relative distances between known objects depicted in the Map on Kobol to their down starcharts.

[Suicide Junkie]

Q) What does visibility (to the naked eye) have to do with anything?

First of all, we are talking interstellar spaceage tech here.
Making a map of the sky has already been done now. 3D maps, no less.

[Azselendor]

Actually it means a lot as the map on kobol does not represent the true star locations thus cannot be used accurately for stellar navigation and the measurement of distances.

However, what makes the map useful is 2 things

1.) Known landmarks such as the lagoon nebulae.
2.) Stellar Constellations can be used to verify if the planet is earth or not.

The problem is galactica doesn't know about #2.

[Azselendor]

Another quick observation I found in the wikipedia that I'll summerize a bit,

M-8 (Lagoon Nebulae) isn't located in Scorpio but Sagittarius. While RDM has acknowledged this mistake, it may indicate kobol's relationship to earth in space.

Also, the position of the nebulae is important, it may indicate that earth is somewhere along the path to the Lagoon Nebulae. If so, Kobol & Galactica could very well be located in the Cygnus Arm of this galaxy if you draw a line from the Lagoon Nebulae to earth and extend it in that direction.