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		| KissBlade said: Ironhawk, aside from Gaap and the astral AD, I can't figure out how the other devils are SC's ... can you make tell me a good strat in using them?
 
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 Give any arch devil regen, quickness, and decent prot via items.  Probably +mr and reinvig as well.  Script fireshield and attack (anything else?).  They have great stats, high hp, fire immunity.
 Edit: the above is with cb mods in mind...otherwise definitely want lifedrain.
 
 For summons I agree with thejeff, it all depends on what gems you have.  Summer lions I sometimes summon since its them or firesnakes, but I don't know that I'd pick fall bears over statues, mech. men, or heck maybe even crushers.
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 dragon scale armour (i love it), horror helm, boots of quickness, pendant of luck, ring of regen and maybe a wraith/hellsword (preferably hell unless vrs uber armour) |  
	
		
	
	
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 Ice Devils are great - low encumbrance, large, high HP, high MR - wait, ALL their stats are high, ALL THE SLOTS , extra tail-attack, self-casting Quickness and Breath of Winter, goes underwater...
 
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   what? even old "look ma, no hands"?  i don't think so...    
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 Hey, no dissing mister Icicle Fist! At least under some CB-mod I had fun fielding him with a dragon scale armor, a luck amulet and a reinvig item plus some helmet. In cold 3 dominion the prot was, like, 34 or so, so the lack of regen didn't really matter in the fights I used him in.
 Oversway: maybe it's obvious but Phoenix Pyre should be scripted if there's access. That and fire shield are pretty much the only fire buffs. You could always try to get off a flame eruption or immolation by attack, cast, attack, but that's trickery.
 
 Especially coupled with regeneration and either life-drain weapons or large amount of reinvigoration phoenix pyre can be quite effective as well as possibly the most fun spell in the game.
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		| Saber Cherry said: Try summoning ANY ice devil
 
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		| Oversway: maybe it's obvious but Phoenix Pyre should be scripted if there's access. That and fire shield are pretty much the only fire buffs. You could always try to get off a flame eruption or immolation by attack, cast, attack, but that's trickery. 
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		| Oversway said: Give any arch devil regen, quickness, and decent prot via items.  Probably +mr and reinvig as well.  Script fireshield and attack (anything else?).  They have great stats, high hp, fire immunity.
 
 
 |  besides fire shield also it's good to cast the spell which respawns him upon death... forgot the fire spell name(phoenix pyre?).
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