Oblivion

[DominionsFan]

Gandalf Parker said:
Is Oblivion more like Daggerfall or just a step up from Morrowind? Is there any real widlerness or areas that arent part of a quest? Im still debating whether or not to get Oblivion

Well in these 2 days I only was traveling in the Imperial province so far and its HUGE with like 10+ castles/cities, lot of dungeons etc. Yes of course you can walk to anywhere or go on horse, or just use fast travel on the map. There are many provinces, I am not exactly sure that how much.
Everything is perfect in the game, the gfx is like....almost like you are watching a movie. I am not kidding its so real...amazing. The quests, the character system/leveling/skills/guilds etc. etc...fantastic game.


Im gonna make some screenshots about my travels and my char soon, until then here are some from the net.


http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/a...c/obliv07B.jpg

http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/a...c/obliv03B.jpg

http://images.3dgamers.com/screenima...4_orcarmor.jpg

http://mirror.rateofinjury.com/porta...oblivion80.jpg

http://mirror.rateofinjury.com/porta...oblivion75.jpg


Here is an excellent screenie from the wilderness. Yes Gandalf YOU CAN walk in a wilderness like this. This is how the wilderness looks like. [The forest areas]

http://www.oblivionportal.com/media/...oblivion68.jpg


There are thousands of screenshots on the net, you should take a look at them. Everything is just perfect in this game, you really should consider to buy this, if you like RPGs, and if you want the experience the next gen gfx.

[OG_Gleep]

A lot of people complained about Morrowinds static world. They came up with a new AI system (the name escapes me). Each NPC will have a set of priorities, which will determine what he does in his day. Some see themselves as warriors, so spend a lot of time training. Some are people ..er people, so they travel around looking for their friends (thats what PC Gamer said). I don't know how they could tell, but I have noticed people striking up conversations that you can ease drop on.

To me, whatever they did, the game world seems immersive and alive.

Its a great game, and a great achievement imho for Role Playing games in general.

Heres what I don't like, and its going to be a very common problem from now on I fear. Its consolized. Theres many concessions they obviously made for the 360. It just seems overly simplistic for a RPG as complicated as this. Oh well. I can't wait for the mod community to start pumping out stuff.

[PrinzMegaherz]

OG_Gleep said:
Heres what I don't like, and its going to be a very common problem from now on I fear. Its consolized. Theres many concessions they obviously made for the 360. It just seems overly simplistic for a RPG as complicated as this. Oh well. I can't wait for the mod community to start pumping out stuff.

One big concession are the very small areas. You will often see the loading screen in dungeons or cities.

[Saber Cherry]

I hope Oblivion doesn't conflict with Supreme Commander. I'm planning to buy SupCom at release, and Oblivion once the first expansion pack (==major bugfix update) and good mods come out... but I don't know the timing of either event. I'll probably have a nice, new computer by then.

From the mod side, I'd like to see a much better experience system, vastly less ugly people, spears, crossbows, short/long blade split, and from what I'm hearing, a redo of their leveled-list system, and a "PC Version" mod that de-consolizes the interface. Morrowind was much better after various mods came out, and this game repeats some of the same failings... so maybe the same people will fix them

[DominionsFan]

Saber Cherry said:
I hope Oblivion doesn't conflict with Supreme Commander. I'm planning to buy SupCom at release, and Oblivion once the first expansion pack (==major bugfix update) and good mods come out... but I don't know the timing of either event. I'll probably have a nice, new computer by then.

From the mod side, I'd like to see a much better experience system, vastly less ugly people, spears, crossbows, short/long blade split, and from what I'm hearing, a redo of their leveled-list system, and a "PC Version" mod that de-consolizes the interface. Morrowind was much better after various mods came out, and this game repeats some of the same failings... so maybe the same people will fix them

I love the lvl system its just perfect, much better then gaining xp like in 99% of the RPGs, its old and boring.
What did you meant less ugly people? You gotta be kidding, the variety of the faces in Oblivion is endless. There are hot women, ugly orcs etc, and all of them are different regarding their "face".
You gonna miss the best game out there atm, if you wont buy it right now Saber. :-)
Oblivion >>>> Morrowind, and it is not just the gfx. Everything is just perfect.

[Saber Cherry]

DominionsFAN said:
I love the lvl system its just perfect, much better then gaining xp like in 99% of the RPGs, its old and boring.

The problem is:

(I mean it! This is a spoiler, do not read if you don't want to know how to abuse the MW/OB level system!)

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What did you meant less ugly people? You gotta be kidding, the variety of the faces in Oblivion is endless. There are hot women, ugly orcs etc, and all of them are different regarding their "face".

...Have you seen the before and after "Beautiful Faces / Bodies / Clothes" mods for Morrowind? Oblivion looks a lot like "Before" The forests and dungeons and etc. are amazing, but the people (to me) look ugly. Not low-tech, or low-poly, or low-res... just ugly and unnatural, especially compared to what modders can do for free with the same tools.

You gonna miss the best game out there atm, if you wont buy it right now Saber. :-)
Oblivion >>>> Morrowind, and it is not just the gfx. Everything is just perfect.

I agree with both of those (well, except for the 'best' part). But I'd rather miss "X" now and enjoy "3X" later than enjoy "X" now and miss "3X" later. I think you are eating pie dough because you can't wait for the pie

[PrinzMegaherz]

Saber Cherry said:

The problem is:

(I mean it! This is a spoiler, do not read if you don't want to know how to abuse the MW/OB level system!)

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I still wonder how much effort you put into exploiting games. You were the first to point out that GC2's AI could be exploitet. Why don't you just enjoy the game instead of making such an effort to ruin the game for yourself?

[Cainehill]

Saber Cherry said:
...I agree with both of those (well, except for the 'best' part). But I'd rather miss "X" now and enjoy "3X" later than enjoy "X" now and miss "3X" later. I think you are eating pie dough because you can't wait for the pie

Heh. Sounds like someone is seriously craving a pie fix.

I definately agree about MorrowWind's skill / leveling up system : retarded, lame, not fun, counterintuitive. Prop a book on the keyboard to keep the character jumping? Sheesh. Or - wear the heaviest armor you can find, and find the smallest rat to attack you for a few hours, to build up armor skill.

Thanks for reminding me why I haven't started Morrowind up in a couple months.

[alexti]

Saber Cherry said:
From the mod side, I'd like to see a much better experience system, vastly less ugly people, spears, crossbows, short/long blade split, and from what I'm hearing, a redo of their leveled-list system, and a "PC Version" mod that de-consolizes the interface. Morrowind was much better after various mods came out, and this game repeats some of the same failings... so maybe the same people will fix them

Yeah, I wonder about mods too. Stock Morrowind's balance was badly messed up. Until mega-morrowind mod it was plain boring. I'm afraid the same thing may happen to Oblivion. I guess in a few weeks fans will come to some conclusion.

[Ironhawk]

OG_Gleep said:
A lot of people complained about Morrowinds static world. They came up with a new AI system (the name escapes me). Each NPC will have a set of priorities, which will determine what he does in his day. Some see themselves as warriors, so spend a lot of time training. Some are people ..er people, so they travel around looking for their friends (thats what PC Gamer said). I don't know how they could tell, but I have noticed people striking up conversations that you can ease drop on.

I believe its called Radiant AI.