Clash Of Armies [Started]

[WraithLord]

Folket said:
I have look at the rules. When did it change from no blood hunting to blood forging/blood magic is forbiden? I think it should be up to me if I want to use my three slaves a turn for magic or for dominion.

Folket, there was a phase prior to the game starting that we have discussed the possibilities wrt blood nation/hunting.
Before that game had started we had all agreed on the following rule:
"1. Blood hunting is prohibited. The map settings give an unfair advantage to blood hunting nations being the reason for this rule. Since Mictlan needs to blood sacrifice for spreading dominions they are an exception to this rule. Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt but are prohibited from blood research and the forging of items that require blood slaves (with the exception of the jade knife). "
Meaning excatly that. We all agreed that blood hunting should be prohibited but were willing to make a (small) exception for Mictlan so that it would at least be able to spread dominion. The alternative to this rule would have been to simply ban all blood nations.

I have made this as clear as possible, even asking you via email whether you are still interested in playing Mictlan in spite of this limitation, to which your gave a positive answer. Anyway, I understand there might have been a confusion, for which I am sorry , yet those were the agreed house rules.

[The Panther]

On the subject of using blood battlefield spells:

It is certainly possible to cast one blood spell without either blood hunting or researching blood magic, and that would be 'Bleed'.

I was assuming that it is legal to cast Bleed since it does not violate the rules as stated so clearly in Wraithlord's above post. In fact, I just happen to have a mage set up to do exactly that if needed. I got an event where I received 16 blood slaves and I also happen to have a sauromancer with the random blood school.

So - is Bleed legal or not? (Not that this is a game turning spell )

I did offer to trade my free slaves to Folket for gems, but he declined to do so.

I agree that the rules were clearly stated in that the sole use of the 3 blood slaves per turn for Mictlan was to spread dominion in order to avoid the quick dominion death.

[Cainehill]

Yah, that wouldn't violate the rules, albeit it does illustrate why it's hard to setup a game like this: if you script a mage to cast Bleed, it's hard to tell if you're actually doing some blood hunting on the side.

Then again, why someone would waste a mage's time blood hunting when they can't get blood summons or items is beyond me. (Unless they figured to get a blood stone or some such equiped on a stealthy mage.)

*sigh* You know what the kicker is? I found Mount Chaining this game (40% bonus to blood summons), was all excited until I remembered no blood magic.

[The Panther]

Cainehill said:
*sigh* You know what the kicker is? I found Mount Chaining this game (40% bonus to blood summons), was all excited until I remembered no blood magic.

I had to laugh my a$$ over this one. Mount Chaining is practically a guaranteed winner site for any blood nation (Jotun qualifies), and you CANT EVEN USE IT!!!

[Folket]

I think there is a 60 blood bonus site.

[The Panther]

Folket said:
I think there is a 60 blood bonus site.

There is also a 20 (unholy 3) and a 30 (blood 3) in addition to the 60 (blood 3). But all three of these are rare. Of these, the only one I have ever heard about actually occuring in an MP game is the Summoning Circle (60 bonus).

The Mount Chaining is not only merely uncommon, it is also a level 1 site (meaning it can be easily found), and it is availiable on any land terrain. In other words, far too common and much too easy to find for the huge bonus it gives.

[Folket]

Since Mictlan needs to blood sacrifice for spreading dominions they are an exception to this rule. Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt but are prohibited from blood research and the forging of items that require blood slaves (with the exception of the jade knife).

A loophole in this rule is that I may summon spine fiends and fiends of darkness.