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Old March 31st, 2006, 01:43 PM
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Yes disintegrate works too... I recommended this in a previous post as well.
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Believe the Ethereal Crossbow has an MR check, so many SC types will be able to ignore it, especially as the items that aid in overcoming MR only affect actual spells that are cast, and not weapons / attacks with MR effects.
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It's not that much worse than Soul Slay without penetration helpers... And it's much cheaper, as S1 mage can do it, and need not even be the one to use it.
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yea, you could always stick the bow on a cheap little commander and hope for the best (or a n1 mage scripted to eagle eyes, fire large enemy)
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there are MR checks on a bunch of otherwise-possible SC counters. Once you get your Ice Devil up to 24 or so it's really unlikely that anything that requires a MR check will work.
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there are MR checks on a bunch of otherwise-possible SC counters. Once you get your Ice Devil up to 24 or so it's really unlikely that anything that requires a MR check will work.
Hmmm... I wonder if we can compile a list of non MR checked spells and items. Or at least maybe say, the top five in effectiveness. a possible list:
ethereal xbow (I'm not sure if there is a MR check)
Gifts from heaven
drain life
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Default Re: Anti SC spells

Ethereal crossbow has a magic resistance check. It imitates save-or-die after all, and would be "slightly" over-powered without the save part.

There are many items and spells which can cause extreme damage, but those are not what are most easily used against the SCs. Gate Cleaver would deal huge amount of armor-negating damage, and is only negated by high defense. Petrify, on the other hand, has an effect even if the target saves, doesn't risk losing expensive equipment, can be used from range, etc. The most useful spellsfor taking down SCs are discussed in this thread.
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