Anti SC spells

[WraithLord]

In several MP games that I have played as pythium I used a combination of three MR attacks on SCs.
1. Commanders with eye of aiming and ethereal xbow. Works so so against weak SCs.
2. A. theurgs with rune smasher and spell focus casting Mind hunt (of course after making sure there aren't any astral mages in presence). Works very well, even against high MR SCs (probably due to the fact that there are multiple mind hunters).
3. Crazy communions. Usually bless of e4,s9 and more then 16 communicants with theurgs equiped with spell focus and rune smashers. This works ok, but usually the AI will try to enslave mind instead of soul slay and I think enslave minds is easier to resist so it takes a *lot* of enslave mind attempts to succeed.

Oh and S9 pretender can help with 2 and 3

I have started this thread to learn more about non astral SC killers, specifically in the schools of nature and earth. In those schools, as far as I understand from the posts in this thread, there are petrify and sleep.

This thread contains some fairly important tips so I'll probably add it to my dom-II KB [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/ArrowRight.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img]

[Saber Cherry]

WraithLord said:
I have started this thread to learn more about non astral SC killers, specifically in the schools of nature and earth. In those schools, as far as I understand from the posts in this thread, there are petrify and sleep.

Ummmm...?

Gifts, Magma Bolts, Shatter, Curse, Maggots, Weapons of Sharpness (+barbarians)...

Some of these combat spells were suggested, in addition to many other non-combat-spell methods from those paths.

[OG_Gleep]

Has any one succesfully assasinated one of the big boys? Elemental Royalty, High level blood summons, the Big undead (TT's...and well TT's), or Combat Pretneders?

A flying assasin with Mage bane could be really succesful.

Also, there are a ton of Undead specific spells in most of the schools. Do any of them work against Tatarians? Are any additional items needed?

And about Lycos amulets:

Wish used a bunch of black servants equipped with them. Each one took out one of my commanders...normally the worst possible commanders picked them up. My 380g Vandrott Prophet (water random), and my Dragon pretender both changed into Shapeshifters.

[WraithLord]

Saber Cherry said:

Ummmm...?

Gifts, Magma Bolts, Shatter, Curse, Maggots, Weapons of Sharpness (+barbarians)...

Some of these combat spells were suggested, in addition to many other non-combat-spell methods from those paths.

I like the sound of the last one, weapons of Sharpnes + barbarians, sounds nasty. Has anyone really tried that combo?

[Wish]

yeah, I use the lycos amulets on black servants because it both makes them berserk immediately, and gives them a touch of regen and strength (to make their lifedrain better)

the fact that they took out important commanders, even when they died, was an added bonus. The trick to beat that, of course, is to fill your commanders misc slots, even with junk.