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View Poll Results: What Would You Do?
Obliterate Them 12 70.59%
Use Diplomacy And Nothing More 1 5.88%
Ignore Them 1 5.88%
Leave Them To Someone Else To Deal With 0 0%
Other (Please Explain) 3 17.65%
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Old April 20th, 2006, 10:56 PM
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As a leader of a mighty space empire, would you tollorate a smaller religiously zealot lead empire who has sworn to destroy one of your allies, and openly opposes and supports terrorism against your empire, from developing sun destroying weapons?

In other words, what would you do if you were facing an Iran situation in one of your games?
In other words, once again, Atrocities accepts the right-wing US political position which reduces a complex situation to a tribal black-and-white us-versus-them fear-based mantra.

Which is to say, I think that the situation with Iran is really one which the intelligent knowledgeable people are telling us is ripe for negotiation - Iran seems to probably really want us to acknowledge them and promise not to invade them - they don't really want to be at war with the West. Failing to understand that seems to me like plain pandering conceit and/or stupidity on the part of certain Western leaders.

Ideally though, I'd like to see a complete ban on nuclear weapons, and action taken to remove them all from the planet. However the current US administration has been sounding at least as frightening as Al Qaeda recently in terms of threatening to develop new weapons and consider actually using them. People like that ought not to be allowed into positions of power, IMO...

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Old April 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM
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...but this almost seems like a non-sequitur.

When nukes start flying we can only hope for cool heads to rule.

The Pakistani and Indian militaries are barking dogs, much like Soviet and NATO militaries back in the day. The slightest thing could set those dogs free. A little nuke induced anarchy is just the right thing.


The US can't nuke North Korea without taking on China. If NK nukes us, think the US would sit idly by and not retaliate? Think there wouldn't be thought that NK wouldn't have struck without China's approval? Or even we allow for the HINT of approval to exist.

Anyway... if we nuke NK, I wouldn't be surprised that we'd nuke China.

Hell that was the rule of the day back during the Soviets vs NATO. You nuke one of us, we nuke all of you.

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This would be suicidal; why would we nuke such a large trade partner?

If nukes are getting tossed back and forth..... you think US would want China to come out unscathed? I'd place them at fault for their lack of control over their part of the world. They need to snap the leash on NK. It's their dog, if it bites anyone, they're to blame.
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Wenin said:I'd place them at fault for their lack of control over their part of the world. They need to snap the leash on NK.
I find this attitude almost as scary as Iran. "Control over their part of the world"!! You're saying a few countries should have harsh military control over the rest of the world, and that it's their fault if something goes wrong!? This tells me that you think that I, living in Canada, are subject to American control...and this scares me, if this is a prevalent attitude down there...
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As a leader of a mighty space empire, would you tollorate a smaller religiously zealot lead empire who has sworn to destroy one of your allies, and openly opposes and supports terrorism against your empire, from developing sun destroying weapons?

In other words, what would you do if you were facing an Iran situation in one of your games?
In other words, once again, Atrocities accepts the right-wing US political position which reduces a complex situation to a tribal black-and-white us-versus-them fear-based mantra.

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I think your back handed slap at me is inapproprate and insinidary. It is designed to provoke me in a debate over US politics. PvK, your entitled to your opinion, but please leave me out of your degrading patranizing comments. Thank you.

If you would have skipped the chance to attack me and would have read my other posts, you would have known that I favor just leaving them alone.
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