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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: OT - Finished \"The DaVinci Code\"

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...essentially that faith is faith in the face of opposing evidence.

Isn't faith faith because of the supporting evidence? I've never met anyone who had faith in anything if it hasn't been backed up by material evidence or personal experience. That's not to say that the physical evidence or the personal experience can't be wrong, but it's still there.
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Default Re: OT - Finished \"The DaVinci Code\"

Faith is faith because it is based on anecdotal evidence, but not the overwhelming empirical evidence and analytical support required to call something a simple fact, rather than a matter of faith. So yes, faith is based on evidence, and no, faith is not based on evidence.
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Default Re: OT - Finished \"The DaVinci Code\"

This is of course answered differently by different people. For adherents to Fideism, though, evidence and 'reasons' mean nothing for faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fideism
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Faith: firm belief in something for which there is no proof.
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Faith is a belief in something which is not seen, which is true.
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Default Re: OT - Finished \"The DaVinci Code\"

I've read this book - VERY, VERY GOOD !!!

Afterwards it inspired me to do some online research of my own, just out of the sake of curiousity. I was actually surprised by the number of REAL, CREDITABLE scientific endeavors to prove these connections, and the number of solid historically accurate links they connected because of that research. And interestingly enough, the number of attempts to not dispute, but block or stop, these efforts by both the Vatican and the Opus Dei. Opus Dei was actually ordered OUT of Morocco because of their actions.

Kind makes you wonder.....
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...I was actually surprised by the number of REAL, CREDITABLE scientific endeavors to prove these connections, and the number of solid historically accurate links they connected because of that research...

I'd be interested in your results if you still have them. I have heard that the book only contains 3 things that are accurate:

1. Paris is in France.
2. London is in England
3. Jesus Christ walked this earth.

I'm sure that's the extreme view either way but I would be interested in your findings nonetheless.
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Some of the objections to the "history" in the book and movie are covered here:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar.../22davinci.htm

Personally I doubt the movie has any more historical fact than the Indiana Jones movies, but as pure entertainment it may well be worth a Netflix slot.
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