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RibbonBlue said:
After reading that I disagree with Marginon being french, I think Marignon is more spanish then french, inquesition along with a theme to develope a sailors.

I feel it is a mixture of both, actually. Some of the names used in Marignon are clearly French, others are obviously Spanish. Marignon itself reminds me of the battle of Marignan (mostly known because of the year, 1515... easy enough to remember).

If I recall correctly, a specific branch of the Inquisition (the Papal Inquisition) was created in the 1230's, following the Episcopal Inquisition in the past century. This particular Inquisition became involved in the "putting down" of the Cathar heresy; actually, this Inquisition may have been dedicated to the suppression of Catharism in the first place. Anyhow, Catharism was going strong in parts of Spain and Southern France, among others.

The Spanish Inquisition was only to appear in the fifteenth century, shortly before Reconquista came to an end and Colombus (both happening in 1492). Portugal was also a significant country with regards to early exploration, though both were later overtaken by other countries (think of the Invincible Armada that kind of ran into some heavy trouble). I would agree that Conquest of the Seas is closer to Spain, though, especially because of the missionary part; it wasn't really the case for the other powers that came to be involved in the New World.

So, I would put Marignon between Southern France (Aquitaine excluded) and Northern Spain, with aspects of both. Some other parts of (modern) France could go with Ulm, and Man should get Aquitaine and perhaps the whole of Western France.

You could probably include the two knight orders here, with the Knights Templar being disbanded by Philippe the Third circa 1330. Throw in the papacy at Avignon, and similar mischief involving France and Rome; that does sound very much Marignonese.