Artillery

[Charles22]

You do recall these are WWII tanks don't you? I mean some of them didn't have anything more thna the most rudimentary optics. Also consider that your targets in many cases are not standing still, because even though the enemy unit is stationary as you see it, sometimes the unit actually has a speed that it's traveling. Of course, the shot is more difficult still when your tank is moving also. The WWII tanks found it pretty close to impossible to hit much of anything while moving as I understand, and then there's the often added difficulty if the tank hits a bump or divet in the ground, further throwing the shot off.

[dwmalesevich]

Yes I understand that these are WWII tanks I started on the M48A2 which is basicly an M-26 with a balictic computer and a rangefinder. Using the balistic sights on a tank an experianced gunner can hit moving targets by the 2nd or 3rd round. Now if you are moving (and cannot execute a short halt attack) that is a differnt story unless you are in an M-3 or M-5 light tank that had a stabalization system. Then you have a great 37mm gun that is usless against anything made after 1942. Altho there is a story about an M-8 AC that destroyed a Tiger with its 37mm. (It was a shot up the rear of the tank at about 10 feet range.)

Dave Malesevich
SFC USA-Ret 19K4HA7

[Charles22]

Have you considered the high-velocity issue too? Because I would assume the vast majority of the modern or semi-modern systems see a much higher proportion of high-velocity, therefore making the shot much surer with or without any optics.

Also, please consider that you said "experienced gunner" as there's a great many of these nations that aren't using those sort of gunners at various times. Get a Panther out there with an experienced gunner (what, a guy with experience in the 80's?) and I think you'll usually egt them by the 3rd shot in not too far a distance. Also, remember the game is just giving percentages, so for every decent tank that misses the first 6 shots, you may have another that hits the first time, which would average what you're saying the average gunner could do.