spob37 Czechoslovakia

[Nemo_cz]

Good work! Something I wanted to do myself
What does mean "*" in the beginning of the unit name?
PA-II cars had 4 MG´s, but they were not able to fire them at once. Maybe it would be better to let them with 2 MG´s.

[PN79]

Thanks
"*" mean that this unit was not in service in fact (like vz.39 Rifle, 10cm vz.38 Fort Howitzer,...). Although these weapons were accepted to service and production started in some cases (15cm vz.37 Rough Howitzer,...) it was too late for using it in military service. Computer will never buy it.

About PA-II you are right - 2 MGs is better. I plan to add riverboats so then I change this.
Regards

[Marek_Tucan]

Nemo_cz said:
PA-II cars had 4 MG´s, but they were not able to fire them at once. Maybe it would be better to let them with 2 MG´s.

IIRC it had a twin MG in the turret and two BMG's facing at opposite directions, no? Then I'd suggest three machineguns... In game most likely two eapon slots, one representing the twin and the other representing the BMG.

A vubec, co sem napsat neco cesky at je tady taky trocha konstruktivniho chaosu?

[JaM]

V pohode...

[PN79]

Zdar
So about PA-II (and other prewar czechoslovak armor), nice info is there:
http://utocnavozba.wz.cz/

Turret of PA-II is not rotary and only 2 MG can fire by one direction. So to simulate it we can use armoured car with rotating turret with 2 MG. I think.

Kdyz se nas tu tak seslo, nezna nekdo presnou organizaci jezdeckych jednotek (druzstvo, ceta, rota - nebo spis jejich jezdecke ekvivalenty)?

[Nemo_cz]

Kdyz se nas tu tak seslo, nezna nekdo presnou organizaci jezdeckych jednotek (druzstvo, ceta, rota - nebo spis jejich jezdecke ekvivalenty)?

from "Miloslav John - Zari 1938":
zakladni jednotku tvorilo druzstvo (pusky+1 LK vz.26)
3 druzstva = ceta (35 jezdcu)
4 cety = eskadrona
3 eskadrony = korouhev
2 korouhve = dragounsky pluk

PLUK = 1.korouhev mela 3 eskadrony jezdecke, 2.korouhev mela 2 esk. jezdecke a 1 kulometnou s TK vz. 24, pozdeji vz.37
pluk mel jeste nahradni korouhev, asi s 2 eskadronami (nahradni a remontni)
nektere pluky mely jeste cyklistickou eskadronu = 1 ceta strelecka a 1 ceta kulometna
od 30. let jeste cetu KPUV

jezdectvo bylo nutno rozclenovat do malych jednotek o kone byly pouzivany jen k rychelsim presunum. po presunu k bojove care jezdci sesedli a bojovali jako pechota. z techto duvodu doslo k prejmenovani jezdeckych pluku na dragounske. pruzkumna cinnost, ktera byla vzdy domenou jezdectva, musela byt take kombinovana s pesim pruzkumem.

[Mobhack]

The posting language in this group is English, please remember!.

There is no problem with a foreign-language bit added to a message to clarify things etc, but the main body of the post should be in English.

Cheers
Andy

[Nemo_cz]

OK, but it was too much for my English...
It´s about czech terms for dragoon units and their org. structure in pre WW2 CZ army.
Maybe useful for improving CZ OOB made by PN79.

[Marek_Tucan]

Skvele shrnuti!
Nice overwiew!

Nemo_cz said:
from "Miloslav John - Zari 1938":
zakladni jednotku tvorilo druzstvo (pusky+1 LK vz.26)
3 druzstva = ceta (35 jezdcu)
4 cety = eskadrona
3 eskadrony = korouhev
2 korouhve = dragounsky pluk

To convert this to English cavalry terms, it'd be something like this:

3 squads = platoon
4 platoons = troop
3 troops = squadron
2 squadrons = dragoon regiment

(hope I got it correctly)

Nemo_cz said:
PLUK = 1.korouhev mela 3 eskadrony jezdecke, 2.korouhev mela 2 esk. jezdecke a 1 kulometnou s TK vz. 24, pozdeji vz.37
pluk mel jeste nahradni korouhev, asi s 2 eskadronami (nahradni a remontni)

Regiment = 1st squadron got three mounted troops, 2nd squadron got two mounted troops and one MG troop (vz.24 HMG, later vz.37)
Regiment got also a reserve squadron with most likely two troops (reserve and remount)

Nemo_cz said:
nektere pluky mely jeste cyklistickou eskadronu = 1 ceta strelecka a 1 ceta kulometna
od 30. let jeste cetu KPUV

Some regiments got moreover bicycle troop (one Rifle platoon and one MG platoon)
since 1930's moreover AT-Gun platoon.

Nemo_cz said:
jezdectvo bylo nutno rozclenovat do malych jednotek o kone byly pouzivany jen k rychelsim presunum. po presunu k bojove care jezdci sesedli a bojovali jako pechota. z techto duvodu doslo k prejmenovani jezdeckych pluku na dragounske. pruzkumna cinnost, ktera byla vzdy domenou jezdectva, musela byt take kombinovana s pesim pruzkumem.

Cavalry was to be scattered into smaller units and horses were used just for fater transport. After reaching combat area cavalrymen dismounted and fought as infantry. Because of this cavalry regiments were renamed to dragoons.
Recon, always cavalry's domain, had to be combined with foot recon as well.

(Hope I've managed to translate it without distorting the meaning and without torturing the English too much )

[Nemo_cz]

I have tried to translate it in this way:
eskadrona = squadron (same level as company)
korouhev = guidon (same level as battalion)

Maybe there is any dragoon to correct it?