LOL v1.20 patch

[Hiro_Antagonist]

Well, the thing with Legendmakers is that they're pretty versatile, and yes, they are generally very strong against 1st-tier units.

From my experience, if Legendmakers seem unbalanced, it's because they're either being used very well, or not being countered properly. (But then again, that's the case with most units. =)

Their main benefits:
-Good Range
-Infinite Retaliation (deadly when combined with good range.)
-Eager

These abilities are certainly good, and they're intended to make up for the Legendmaker's otherwise low stats for its cost.

Low-end units generally have a hard time against them, but there are two very effective trumps against Legendmakers:
-Units with high skill
-Units that prevent retalation (through Paralyze, Peaceful, or effects like Bomb or Martial Arts)

Archers and Snipers can also get free shots against Legendmakers if they attack at range 4 or 5.

So every race (except gnomes themselves) do have effective trumps against Legendmakers. The Arcatta probably have the hardest time, but fully-healed Archmages can bring them down fast, and the Apprentice's Waterlogged ability is especially useful on Legendmakers.

Cheers,
-Hiro_Antagonist

[Sammas]

Well, my issue is mainly with races - Gnomes are really strong because of 3 good units - gardeners, legendmakers, and wolf riders.

Orcs have Raiders and Mystics, but I've never considered the Ogre to be overpowered. I mean, you can knock out Legendmakers with paralyse/peaceful etc, but you can do the same to Ogres, and you're only negating $3600 compared to $5600, AND Legendmakers can still just go and buff friendlies..

Unless Phil disagrees, I think the Ogre nerf is really undeserved, but I guess we'll find out. I certainly think that Orcs will need to win through Raider/Mystics + other race units.

[Pyros]

Sammas,

I would be happy to play you a game, my Orcs against your Gnomes with the old settings.

Maybe then you might have seen why the Orcs were not so easy to defeat.

Actually the Orc strategy was based on the combunation of "some Raiders and the 3 Ogres"!

cheers,
Pyros

[PhilD]

Sure, if you can field 3 Ogres, the Legendmakers will have a hard time. But by the time you've got them (even with the 1.10 price), the Legendmakers are all over the place, and there are Gardeners on Gnome cities, meaning the ones with the money to field the Ogres are actually the Gnomes.

Remember - LM only costs 3 cities if they have Gardeners in them. Plus, as you can buy multiple LMs from a single city if you have the gold, you can afford to leave Gardeners on cities.

The main Gnome weakness is, they have no damage ability while expanding, since they're usually using Gardeners. Rush them and kill some, or force them to buy some other units - this will slow them down. Of course, Orcs have the best tier 1 unit in the game (huge HPs, poison, and actually cheap while expanding), so that's how you can beat Gnomes.

As for using Archmages as a strategy to kill Legendmakers... the thing is, LM always get first shot since they move on the turn you buy them. After that, AM is not fully healed anymore - so what you need is AM plus Apprentice, and by then you're dealing with extra high costs.

[Hugh Manatee]

Is it out yet? I dont think the download page has updated yet....

[beans]

Please.

What is the status of the patch? Should I continue to check this forum daily?
Thanks.

[Hiro_Antagonist]

Actually, the servers will be down tonight while we upgrade the servers, and the patch itself should be available tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your patience, but this is a big patch that took lots of work and testing to get ready!

-Hiro_Antagonist