.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old June 12th, 2006, 05:54 PM
capnq's Avatar

capnq capnq is offline
General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 13
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
capnq is on a distinguished road
Default Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

In a single-player game using v1.95, I have encountered some odd behavior. I have been putting colony ships in fleets with combat ships to escort them through hostile territory and protect the new colony until defenses are built. When the colony is established, the fleet strategy and formation reverts to the default settings, e.g. a fleet that has been travelling with "Wall - Maximum Weapons Range" changes to "Arrowhead - Optimal Firing Range" upon arrival at its destination. (Note that the colony ship is never the fleet leader, so the leader isn't changing when the colony ship disappears.) Has anybody else run into this, and did it occur before v1.95?
__________________
Cap'n Q

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old June 12th, 2006, 11:15 PM

Renegade 13 Renegade 13 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,205
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Renegade 13 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I've never observed that particular event yet, but I rarely fleet colony ships, so...my observations aren't really that useful
__________________
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says "I'll try again tomorrow".

Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future.

Download the Nosral Confederacy (a shipset based upon the Phong) and the Tyrellian Imperium, an organic looking shipset I created! (The Nosral are the better of the two [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grin.gif[/img] )
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old June 12th, 2006, 11:31 PM
PvK's Avatar

PvK PvK is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 8,806
Thanks: 54
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
PvK is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I remember being annoyed by something that happened when I made a colony fleet, so I stopped doing it many versions ago. I think I just remember them clearing their orders upon colonization, but I don't remember a change in tactical orders. But, I probably either didn't give them such orders, or didn't pay attention. So, ya, I can't say.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old June 13th, 2006, 12:38 AM
Will's Avatar

Will Will is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Emeryville, CA
Posts: 1,412
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Will is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I remember getting "This ship cannot colonize" messages a long long time ago when colonly ships were in fleets. More recently, I have never had occasion to put colonizers into fleets, since I didn't send them into systems where it was necessary to protect it from the warp to the destination planet.
__________________
GEEK CODE V.3.12: GCS/E d-- s: a-- C++ US+ P+ L++ E--- W+++ N+ !o? K- w-- !O M++ V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t- 5++ X R !tv-- b+++ DI++ D+ G+ e+++ h !r*-- y?
SE4 CODE: A-- Se+++* GdY $?/++ Fr! C++* Css Sf Ai Au- M+ MpN S Ss- RV Pw- Fq-- Nd Rp+ G- Mm++ Bb@ Tcp- L+
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old June 13th, 2006, 01:08 PM
TurinTurambar's Avatar

TurinTurambar TurinTurambar is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: At work or sleeping
Posts: 821
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
TurinTurambar is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I'll put that scenario in my test game and see what happens.

Hey, does everyone else keep old savegames lying around to test stuff too?

TT
__________________
Aa Turam Empire

Geekdom is eternal... you will be assimilated... resistance is futile.

A+ Se GdY S++ Fr- C* Cs* Sf- Ai++ Au>M! M- Mp! S@ Ss+ R! Pw+ Fq++ Nd? Rp++ G++ Mm++ Bb-- L-- Tcp

'We, the weird, chasing the pointless, for no reason at all, have been finding out things that have no effect on anything important for at least a couple days and are now qualified to chase our tails to the merriment of all watching.'-Narf et al

"Of course, you don't want to be going about handing out immortality willy-nilly, that just wouldn't be responsible." -O'Shea
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 14th, 2006, 09:58 AM
capnq's Avatar

capnq capnq is offline
General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 13
Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
capnq is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

In the game in question, I've been MEE for over five years; most of the worlds worth colonizing are in or beyond disputed systems. Many of the colony fleets are going to worlds where the AI glassed colonies that I hadn't defended heavily enough the first time.

Quote:
TurinTurambar said:Hey, does everyone else keep old savegames lying around to test stuff too?
Not me. After I finish a game, I delete all the related files for that game from the Savegame folder, to reduce clutter.

I usually don't enjoy games that I've set up solely as test cases, so I don't do it often.
__________________
Cap'n Q

"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 14th, 2006, 07:08 PM
PvK's Avatar

PvK PvK is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 8,806
Thanks: 54
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
PvK is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I keep just about everything.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old June 14th, 2006, 07:45 PM

bearclaw bearclaw is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Prince George BC, Canada
Posts: 840
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
bearclaw is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

I always set all ships to break formation and to rely on individual ship stratagies, so the actual fleet stratigy/formations are irrelivant.
__________________
Nick (bearclaw)
You don't know the Power of the Dark Side. I must obey my Master.
Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis
A+ Se+++ GdY $++ Fr- C+ Csp Sf* AuO M++ MpTFdAM St RTNH Pw++ Fq++ Nd++ Rp++ G++ Mm++ Bb++ L+ Tcp-
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old June 14th, 2006, 10:25 PM
PvK's Avatar

PvK PvK is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 8,806
Thanks: 54
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
PvK is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

The fleet strategy will still be used by all the ships on the first turn.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old June 14th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Yimboli Yimboli is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yimboli is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Odd behavior when a fleet colonizes

Quote:
bearclaw said:
I always set all ships to break formation and to rely on individual ship stratagies, so the actual fleet stratigy/formations are irrelivant.
you do that in multiplayer as well?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.