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July 11th, 2006, 08:08 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Keep in mind that the ground combat in SE5, unlike that in GalCiv2, is not just "two opposing walls of troops lining up and shooting lasers at each other", though - it actually has quite a few elements of (someone will flame me for this, but I don't care - it's true) real-time strategy games, so ground combat is almost a minigame in itself - perhaps an ugly one, but the underlying model is far better than GalCiv2's "the one with the best multipliers wins, and perhaps having more troops will help" or even SE4's "invisible walls of troops which are at least individually represented" model! 
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July 11th, 2006, 08:25 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Some of the ugliness is the angle and compression of the screenshots, plus the fact that the 3d models are low on polys to allow most older systems to run the tactical combat without needing a speedy/costly video card.
The fact is that you can just skip over the visual tactical combat and just use the auto resolve strategic mode. 
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July 11th, 2006, 09:29 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
As for the UI, I partially agree. I don't like the lower-right button-window, and I'd prefer if the end-turn button was on the lower-right of the screen.
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July 11th, 2006, 11:54 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Oh, me too.
SE4's graphics are great, IMO. They do the job of informing me about what is going on in the game, fast and efficiently. So much so that I can play it on my P-166 laptop anywhere, anytime.
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July 12th, 2006, 01:32 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
The game is still in the beta phase. SEIV Graphics are what they are... I like them, exspecially since I changed some of the base colors to green and yellow. 
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July 12th, 2006, 02:50 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
I agree, gameplay trumps graphics anytime. Hell, I still play Angband.
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July 12th, 2006, 05:03 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
The UI may not appeal to you, but as long as it is functional, and believe me that is VERY important, then I tend to agree, eye candy is not important, but nice to have.
Functionality is more important than looks. Give me function, simplistic flowing logical function over eye candy any day.
My $0.02 cents worth.
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July 12th, 2006, 06:57 PM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
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Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
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July 13th, 2006, 01:27 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
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Raapys said:
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
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July 13th, 2006, 01:28 AM
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Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?
Well, Raapys, haha, buy a new comp u cheapo!!! If SEV hangs on to its monetary challenged playerbase with their 5 year old comps, then SEV wont ever be commercially viable. Sorry, but all a review has to do is say it has Amiga style graphics and the death knell will sound.
You peeps need to embrace 3D. I mean, I know you think a 3D Strategy Game is an oxymoron, but you're wrong. This is something that absolutely HAS to be done. I dont need to explain wahy, if you have any brains at all you already know. STFU and go buy a new computer. SEV commercially cannot hold back in the 3D dept. so you cheap bastards dont have to upgrade like evryone else. OMG.
Im sure you few hundred fans out there that swear 2D graphics are all you need will buy Amiga graphic styled SEV gameplay, but fortunately for SEV, it doesnt need you and so I hope the graphics will be up to date so the game sells.
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