Stabilization numbers question/FCS

[harlikwin]

DRG said:
******What I would be looking for is something like Janes as
opposed to "various threads on tanknet"

Believe it or not we have strived from the very beginning to ensure that ALL sides "get a fair shake". We DID NOT go into this thinking that the Russian equipment was "naturally" inferior nor were we "stuck in the 80's mode of horde of inferior tanks " The game has evolved over the years and maybe....just maybe what you see IS an accurate representation of reality but where the problem lies is the NUMBER of vehicles available to each side. The costs of the tanks in this game are strictly based on their capability. We do NOT factor "rarity" into their costs. There were a LOT more Russian tanks than NATO ones. Try ten to one odds on the Russian side and the ability to kill from the NATO side is overbalanced by the sheer number of targets and the number of those targets that return fire which was, in fact, Soviet doctrine.

This game will NEVER make everyone happy, there are simply too many divergent POV's but we have always tried to be fair
Don

Don:
I have looked at various editions of janes, particularly ones dealing with the older tanks. NONE of them really describe firing procedures for any tanks. They might list some model of FCS and so forth, but no real details on how it works. Also Tanknet, is at least reasonably scholarly esp when you get a few people saying the same things.

As for various revisions, I generally know how it works, I've seen it go back and forth, notice my main issue here is between two models of soviet tank that had way different FCS and procedures and have the same FCS rating. I then posit that the superior FCS might need to be few points higher because of its similarity to western FCS. As I understand crew training still plays a much larger role in the game than FCS I don't think its going to somehow massively change the game balance.

[DRG]

I'll look into this for the next release

Don

[baggypants]

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[harlikwin]

well the fact the said equipment pretty much does everything and M1's/Leo-2 FCS about 5+ years before they were introduced might have something to do with it. From the posters on tanknet, they said it worked quite well. Thus the conclusion.

Also, I thought the FCS mainly dealt with engaging moving targets. While other values dealt with overall accuracy (gun accuracy value)

[baggypants]

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[harlikwin]

Ok thats a nice synopsis/set of opinions. But none of it has to do much with FCS. Turret traverse/stabilization is certainly usable for tracking a target with soviet tanks (though rapidle turining the turret to a new threat might be slower, but this isn't modeled at all in game), and I really doubt SPMBT models the issue of moving over rough terrain having any impact on stabilization. Also Thermals/spotting is covered by the vision attribute, and I would like to point out most later soviet tanks of this period had passive Image intesification, not active IR (The IR spotlights were supplemental)