New Mod: Babylon 5 Shadowfall

Psientist · #1 August 13th, 2006, 05:30 PM

In multi-race battles, I think all diplomacy is suspended. I think the game design documentation mentions somewhere that they had planned on implementing "betrayal" and other features into such events, but never got around to it.

Glad to see everything else is pretty stable right now in v2.2.

ImUrOBGYN · #2 August 13th, 2006, 10:04 PM

In previous versions and various other mods, there were times when I would meet two races or more without having established a relationship with them and have been asked to join their side. I've even been asked to join the side of both races one after the other! I'll see if I can find the text in the default folder for this.

Okay... I remember this happening with the Zorg before, for example. Here's text from the file zorg.ini located in C:\Program Files\Shrapnel Games\Weird Worlds\default\gamedata\races. I've also attached the zorg.ini file but in notepad. (Forum won't let me attach an .ini file.)

The first one is if you've already established a friendly relationship with the Zorg the second paragraph is if you haven't attacked or established a friendly relationship with them. Two possible requests for each.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
TEXT greetallyfriendly
<color=990>Uninvited guests come to pilfer from the table of wisdom, yet they do not express humility nor do they relinquish arms at the door. We ask your aid that we may teach these curs some manners.<color=999>
<color=990>Although our adversaries' negative waves convey ill intentions, our auguries portend victory. Will you join us in celebration as we confront them?<color=999>
END

TEXT greetallyneutral
<color=990>Uninvited guests come to pilfer from the table of wisdom, yet they do not express humility nor do they relinquish arms at the door. We ask your aid that we may teach these curs some manners.<color=999>
<color=990>Although our adversaries' negative waves convey ill intentions, our auguries portend victory. Will you join us in celebration as we confront them?<color=999>
END

LSTAR · #3 August 14th, 2006, 02:30 PM

Heh. Love the mod. It's great fun and better than the full game I'd say. But, I'm afraid to add that I've had ally-able aliens for some time (I probably sohuld have mentioned it...).

ImUrOBGYN · #4 August 14th, 2006, 11:34 PM

Hate to be the harbinger, but here's the files after the crash. The usual, on my way to a planet and just as I arrived, it crashed to desktop.

ImUrOBGYN · #5 August 14th, 2006, 11:35 PM

...and the second file.

ImUrOBGYN · #6 August 16th, 2006, 05:45 AM

While digging through your mod, I noticed under the 'gamedata/items' folder, you only have fb_gorith.ini for fighter bays. Would this affect the non-working narn fighter bays?

Psientist · #7 August 17th, 2006, 06:20 PM

not really. "Gorith" is the name of the narn fighter hull! Thanks for looking though.

On the crashlogs, it shows that the game is still generating too many fleets, even though the fleets-per-race and distribution.ini FLEETS settings should limit it well below the engine limitations. Sigh.

ImUrOBGYN · #8 August 17th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Would it have anything to do with map size? When started playing this game, one of the first things I messed with was the map size. When I increased it too much, the game would crash. I don't know if there are map size limitations or by creating such a large map, I had in turn caused the game to produce too many fleets. Another shot in the dark... I'm going to try that other file you sent in a few mintues.

Psientist · #9 August 23rd, 2006, 11:36 AM

There are indeed map size limitations, but this shouldn't be coming close to them. And, if that was the case, the "small" and "medium" maps should behave much differently than the "large" maps, since they are the same as the unmodified "medium" and "large" map settings of the default game.

I've got no more solutions, sorry.