What is really new?

Nerfix · #1 September 14th, 2006, 11:47 AM

The Awakening mechaning seems to have changed the game dynamics quite a bit too.

Morkilus · #2 September 14th, 2006, 12:25 PM

Improved AI is a huge deal for me. The graphics were improved, by the way. If you were looking for something like Warcraft 2 -> Warcraft 3, well, you're not dealing with Blizzard here.

So OP: I'm curious, besides graphics, what were you looking for in improvements?

okiN · #3 September 14th, 2006, 12:46 PM

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Morkilus said:you're not dealing with Blizzard here.

Damn good thing, too.

Agrajag · #4 September 14th, 2006, 01:01 PM

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okiN said:

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Morkilus said:you're not dealing with Blizzard here.

Damn good thing, too.

I second that

Nerfix · #5 September 14th, 2006, 01:05 PM

Why the Blizzard dislike? They've made quality games if you ask me.

Graeme Dice · #6 September 14th, 2006, 01:49 PM

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Nerfix said:
Why the Blizzard dislike? They've made quality games if you ask me.

They've made many quality games. They've also entered the Dikumud style MMO market, which is guaranteed to leave a large proportion of their customers who quit playing WoW hating them.

Morkilus · #7 September 14th, 2006, 01:58 PM

Of course Blizzard makes great games. I still have Diablo 2 installed for when my brain is too fried to play anything else. However, they wouldn't touch something like Dominions with a 10-foot Ethereal Pike, and if they did, it would... well... not be Dominions. What do you mean by DikuMUD? I thought that's what WoW was; is something new coming up?

@EMH: Have you checked out the AAR's yet?

NTJedi · #8 September 14th, 2006, 03:57 PM

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Nerfix said:
Why the Blizzard dislike? They've made quality games if you ask me.

Blizzard has made some good games, but they're a little slow on being an effective business. The original Diablo was a smashing world-wide success yet look at how long they took to develop the sequel. Just stupid management to ignore a gold-mine for so long.
Also even tho I was a big fan of Warcraft_2 I never purchased Warcraft_3 because the company was purely focused on graphics and the maps were only 96X96 at maximum.(way too small)

Nerfix · #9 September 14th, 2006, 03:59 PM

Well, Warcraft 3 is fundamentaly pretty different from WC2. Much faster paced. Might have been an intentional move you know.

Gandalf Parker · #10 September 14th, 2006, 01:13 PM

I agree with others. I dont think it was meant to be somekind of an etirely NEW game. Its Dominions 2 with enough improvements to be Dominions 3.

I think that mainly we are entering a new era (oops, a pun since Dom3 introduces eras) in the games development. When Dom1 and Dom2 came out there were many player suggested improvements. And they got put in on a regular basis. Then each of them started developing a wishlist full of items which couldnt be put in without large rewrites to the way the game did things. When Johan got frustrated at getting more "cant do" than "can do" suggestions, he seems to start a new version

So even though there might not be a visible difference to you, I see it as a step that was needed so we could go forward. And I have no problem paying full-game price for that work.

On the other hand, Im thrilled with additions for solo play. Better AIs, more AI settings, larger maps, more random events, randomly generated maps.