SE V demo Interface

Black_Knyght · #1 September 18th, 2006, 01:22 AM

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Gandalf Parker said:
Im just generally unhappy. Im forcing myself to continue playing the SEV demo to try and give it a fair chance but I feel pulled back to my SEIV game. So far Im really wanting an SE 4.5 with 4's graphics and some of 5's features.

Man Oh Man, did you take the words right out of my mouth on this one !!!

The graphics in SEIV worked just fine for me, and while some of the features added to SEV would be nice to have in SEIV they're certainly not enough to make an instant "OOOH AAAH" convert out of me. I'm not at all pleased with this incarnation of SE at all.

Fyron · #2 September 18th, 2006, 05:06 AM

Black_Knyght:

Have you looked under the hood at the data files yet? Sadly, most of the new features get buried under the deluge of the not-so-stellar interface.

Black_Knyght · #3 September 19th, 2006, 08:13 AM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Black_Knyght:

Have you looked under the hood at the data files yet? Sadly, most of the new features get buried under the deluge of the not-so-stellar interface.

Yeah, I took the time to look at them, but in truth I'm only just beginning to understand the modding process and now I'd have to learn another one.

Additionally, I've run this Demo now a total of 12 times, and it constantly gives me headaches and troubles. In all likelyhood I'd have to update my entire system to play it, which I'm not at all about to do simply for a single game that hasn't impressed me in any way. I think it was a very bad idea to gear it towards higher-end systems graphically.

I liked the playability of SEIV, the "Hands -On" adaptability of the game, and didn't play it simply for the graphics. Being able to do things like rotate a solar system just doesn't give me goose bumps all over.

I know my lack of drool over the new game is a minority opinion, and while I respect those of others folks I think I've come as far as I'm going to with Space Empires. I liked SEIII, I really love SEIV, and SEV just didn't go where I'd hoped it would. They did improve on the things I liked, but then overran it with things I didn't.

Noble713 · #4 September 19th, 2006, 08:51 PM

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Black_Knyght said:
I think it was a very bad idea to gear it towards higher-end systems graphically.

*raises eyebrow* You think SE5 has high-end graphics requirements? Try playing Oblivion or F.E.A.R. I think any performance issues stem from less-than-efficient programming, rather than the actual graphics capabilities. Take ground combat: it doesn't have advanced particle effects, rag-doll physics, volumetric lighting, or even animations for the units, yet it still turns into a virtual slideshow. That just means Aaaron needs to clean up the code.

I think your comment is akin to wishing a movie was released on VHS even though it is clear that the market has moved on to DVDs. VHS is only useful to people who still have VHS players and are unwilling/unable to get DVD players.

StarShadow · #5 September 19th, 2006, 08:54 PM

just wanted to point out that Civ4 has higher graphic requirements than SEV.

Santiago · #6 September 19th, 2006, 11:07 PM

I generally like the game with more options than SEIV and the modding possibilities but the interface makes it hard to try and enjoy the game. The info, map and button windows occupy too much screen real estate. The mini flag patch is good but still trying to find my ships on the map

. The UI needs a lot of work.

Phoenix-D · #7 September 19th, 2006, 11:13 PM

Just look for the flags, not your ships. Definitely annoying that you can't see them but you don't actually need to.

Black_Knyght · #8 September 20th, 2006, 12:53 AM

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Noble713 said:

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Black_Knyght said:
I think it was a very bad idea to gear it towards higher-end systems graphically.

*raises eyebrow* You think SE5 has high-end graphics requirements? Try playing Oblivion or F.E.A.R. I think any performance issues stem from less-than-efficient programming, rather than the actual graphics capabilities. Take ground combat: it doesn't have advanced particle effects, rag-doll physics, volumetric lighting, or even animations for the units, yet it still turns into a virtual slideshow. That just means Aaaron needs to clean up the code.

I think your comment is akin to wishing a movie was released on VHS even though it is clear that the market has moved on to DVDs. VHS is only useful to people who still have VHS players and are unwilling/unable to get DVD players.

Two points here:

1) You may well be right that it's not an issue of higher-end graphics required, but instead a matter of "less-than-efficient programming". That's something I neither dispute nor argue. Either way, it doens't work for me.

2)You said my comments were "akin to wishing a movie was released on VHS". Obviously, you let the point I was trying to make sail right over your head. I have a good, solid, reliable system, neither low-end nor top-end, but quite usable all the same. I'm not going to "upgrade" my system simply to play a new version of some game. I'm a little more "Real World" grounded than that. It just makes little sense to me to release a new game with the idea in mind that any interested party will have to stay top-of-the-line to play it.

On a side note - I do not play "Oblivion or F.E.A.R.", nor do I really care to. I do play Space Empires, I do enjoy Space Empires, and if I were interested in any other game I more than likely wouldn't be here discussing it.

Phoenix-D · #9 September 20th, 2006, 12:57 AM

Black Knyght, the point there is that SE5's graphics are far from state of the art, and any computer built in the last 5 years should be able to run them with ease. They can't, because the game's a bit buggy at the moment, but they should be able to.

StarShadow · #10 September 20th, 2006, 01:02 AM

I have an AMD 2500/512Meg Ram/Ati Radeon 9600pro...I need binoculars to see high-end..in 1280x768 with graphics set to medium I get 50-60fps in the system screen.

On that note, would it be a good idea to start a new thread for people to list their system specs and the framerate they get?