Anybody up for a game of stock SE4 at PBW?

[Suicide Junkie]

Disallow surrender. Gifting all your stuff away counts too.

As far as the map, just ask anybody else to make the map for you.
Give me the settings you want, and I could post one with a minute or two of work.

[Possum]

Disallowing surrender would be fine with me.

Trying to put restrictions on gifts can get slippery. Harking back to that tourney again, I was the strongest player, allied with the #4 player, against an alliance of the #2 and #3 players. I had to use some major gifting to keep my ally in the game. I sent him resources, and I sent him ships and I sent him tech. I even gave him two planets. But it seemed well worth the investment to me, as it kept him in the game, and covered my whole south-western flank.

Are you objecting to this sort of thing, or just the use of massive gifting prior to quitting the game? If the latter, how do you word an agreement to allow the former, yet prohibit the latter?

Sigh, this is exactly the sort of rules-lawyering that turned me off of SE4 MP

[Suicide Junkie]

Gifting everything works the same as a surrender. The difference between gifting a couple planets and surrendering should be obvious to all involved.