Farstrike a useless spell?

[Agrajag]

Manuk said:
(odd, the quote doesn't work.)

That's because you are supposed to use quote instead of q

[Wick]

I don't think the cast chance is the problem. Hand of Death every other turn is plenty, it's the difficulty of getting and, especially, keeping the mage close enough to use it.

[Arralen]

Wick said:
.. it's the difficulty of getting and, especially, keeping the mage close enough to use it.

"Keeping close enough" like "keeping alive" most times
With lower-than-average hitpoints and defense, and only medium armor at best this can turn out quite problematic with most mages.

Vans e.g. on the other hand are quite good at frying attackers (and the remnant of their bodyguards ) with Shock Wave, and are quite able to survive some rounds of melee combat unless very unlucky ..



remnant o.c. .. 'wash tie-ping shilly shings 'gain

[Nerfix]

Shock Wave is a riot. It and Immolate are high in my list of favorite spells.

[Frostmourne27]

Flame eruption on a non fire imune mage with a non fire imune bodyguard... even if you lose, losing can be fun. Last stands against ermor for example (Oh look, my SC got five thousand kills, and I still lost )
OT: I've never tried, but would an anathemant dragon with flying shoes set to cast divine bless (if bless is good) + fire shield, attack rear, flame eruption flame eruption, cast spells work? It seems like you would do quite well, since rear. would be mages/archers, and anathemants are hard to kill, and flame eruption owns. Body guards would be a problem, but if you could incinerate them (figuratively, not the spell )...

[Wick]

Like I implied, you can't order "attack rear" and then cast spells. You can only use "attack once" and once that squad routs the mage will just send Phantasmal Warriors against the archers or something.

Dear Mighty Warrior Mage, we'd like to see some AGGRESSION here.

[PvK]

I liked Farstrike from my Shedu early in the game.

[silhouette]

PvK said:
I liked Farstrike from my Shedu early in the game.

This is the only commander I have ever used it with. The Shedu has the right magic, and also combines very high strength and lack of hands, which makes it hard to turn that strength to killing purposes otherwise. And using spells keeps him out of trample range.

Sill

[Nerfix]

Well, E/S commanders aren't that common in Dominions 2 anyway.

[BigJMoney]

Wick said:
I don't think the cast chance is the problem. Hand of Death every other turn is plenty, it's the difficulty of getting and, especially, keeping the mage close enough to use it.

That is one of the things I mentioned. When you select "Attack X" mages should still opt to cast touch spells if they have greater potential than an attack. If the miss chance activates, at least they still get an attack.

I can't help but notice that touch spells and close range spells tend to have very low fatigue cost coupled with low path costs. This means a battle mage could theoretically be a viable build, because they could potentially get a lot of spells cast, even in moderate armor. I guess by the time you can take advantage of it, there are simply better spells around, though. I wonder, if "Attack X" still allowed mages to cast spells, would empowering SCs become fashionable.

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