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October 1st, 2006, 03:01 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
Ya, good point. As I wrote somewhere else, I wasn't really satisfied with SE4 until the SE4 Gold. And I'm still think the stock unmodded data is far inferior to many mods (even simple ones that just fix some of the more glaring balance issues).
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October 1st, 2006, 03:32 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
Then again, some things cant be fixed by mods.
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October 1st, 2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
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Then again, some things cant be fixed by mods.
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Quite true. I think also that one should not have to rely on a mod to "fix" certain things.
Which is why I won't be buying SEV any time soon.
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October 1st, 2006, 05:26 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
You can never please all of the people all of the time. With that in mind just keep an open mind on SEV, after all the original reviews on Star Wars in the opening days, had it as a Good Guys vs Bad Guys movie, nothing more. It turned out to be a lot more!
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October 1st, 2006, 06:07 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
People should also *not* chain themselves to "stock" unnessesarily. Its not like stock is the bible or anything.
Maybe Aaron intentionally made it weak to encourage people to customize the game? 
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October 1st, 2006, 06:29 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
Just to get this straight, mods were one of the best things in computergame history to be developed, and comparing SEIV stock to stuff like Adamant or Devnull (+++) defintly adds a lot of playability. However, i think its quite to be forced to use mods in order to enjoy something. Mods should add a new twist, new flair to a game.
I for one am definily open-minded regarding mods, but face it, you cant mod a "broken" interface, nor can you change certain things. You can only change what is allowed to change, and that would be datafiles.
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October 1st, 2006, 06:44 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
Which is exactly why I don't care to bug Aaron about stock too much.
Let Aaron work on the things that only he can fix, and leave the actual datafiles to us.
If only he'd let us write "stock"...
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October 1st, 2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
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Not a bad idea.
Seriously, maybe it's time for Aaron to employ a few guys...
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October 1st, 2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: What everyone hated about SE:IV
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I agree. The one-man development shop thing can only do so much. Development by committee is also not good, but many of the issues being brought up here as SEV "negatives" appear to have been brought up by the beta testers to Aaron. For whatever reason, he did not or could not act upon their suggestions.
Most of the things I see being brought up as "bugs" or irritants are really things that are rather obvious.
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