Province Defense

Ygorl · #1 October 4th, 2006, 07:17 PM

I got PD of 40 in my hometown, and it has beat a couple solid AI midgame armies... Not that it would withstand a serious or intelligent attack, but it makes a lot more of a difference than it did in 2.

Meglobob · #2 October 4th, 2006, 07:36 PM

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Ygorl said:
I got PD of 40 in my hometown, and it has beat a couple solid AI midgame armies... Not that it would withstand a serious or intelligent attack, but it makes a lot more of a difference than it did in 2.

Is it worth the money, however?

In Dom 2 I get PD to 10, because its very cheap to do so. Perhaps PD to 20, in provinces where u get that random event which raises it to PD 15.

But 40?

Isn't it better to spend the money elsewhere?

Or in Dom3 is PD really worth investing in?

NTJedi · #3 October 4th, 2006, 07:45 PM

If province defense has been improved... hopefully the AI opponents are investing more into province defense as well.

Perhaps the developers can comment on the AI opponents and how they invest in province defense.

Daynarr · #4 October 4th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Depends on situation Meglobob. If you are defending some chokepoint its well worth the investement. You can improve them by placing few artillery mages and maybe priests for sermon of courage. The fact that they all get back to full numbers after each battle makes them very usefull for defending critical provinces.

Meglobob · #5 October 5th, 2006, 02:10 AM

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Daynarr said:
Depends on situation Meglobob. If you are defending some chokepoint its well worth the investement. You can improve them by placing few artillery mages and maybe priests for sermon of courage. The fact that they all get back to full numbers after each battle makes them very usefull for defending critical provinces.

Errrm...thanks, not considered putting a priest/mage in as backup, yea scripted to cast spells, then leg it at the end. Give that a go.

Ygorl · #6 October 5th, 2006, 02:26 AM

Cainehill, right on. In Dom2, I'd rarely buy PD above 1-3 points... Maybe knock it up to 10 as a surprise for a predicted invader, but I almost never went higher. In Dom3 I'm finding myself with the money to put it at 10 as a matter of course, and raise it to 20 or 25 as the situation warrants. Raising it to 40, though, would be *really* unusual.

Nerfix · #7 October 5th, 2006, 05:05 AM

Interesting, I wonder how hard it is for Caelum and stealth nations to overpower province defence now.

Hammerstein · #8 October 5th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Im currently trying the demo (oh god why isnt my copy here yet) and have cranked up some province defenses to 50 which gives you quite a lot of troops. What I noticed is that the AI will throw wave after wave or units against highly defended provinces and often take horrible losses.

Yet it manages to get another another huge army up by the next round. Obviously the AI uses every resource in every available province to ship troops to the front. I still hate this part of the game, if you do this as human opponent it takes an ungodly amount of micro-managing to achieve the same, once you control 20+ provinces it takes forever to ship your units anywhere.

So was this changed in DIII or do you still have to do all of this manually ?

Morkilus · #9 October 5th, 2006, 01:49 PM

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Daynarr said:
Depends on situation Meglobob. If you are defending some chokepoint its well worth the investement. You can improve them by placing few artillery mages and maybe priests for sermon of courage. The fact that they all get back to full numbers after each battle makes them very usefull for defending critical provinces.

I was very pleased to see (after back-to-back indie attacks on my capitol) that EA Abysia gets an Anathemant Salamander after 20 points of PD. With the regular troops and some very sturdy infantry, this is a nasty wall for halfhearted attacks. When splitting up larger armies in a blitzkreig-style offensive, backing up your rear provinces with PD actually works.

Daynarr · #10 October 4th, 2006, 09:16 PM

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NTJedi said:
If province defense has been improved... hopefully the AI opponents are investing more into province defense as well.

Perhaps the developers can comment on the AI opponents and how they invest in province defense.

Since there is more gold, there is more PD for AI as well. Not too much but you will run into heavy PD often enough. I guess it depends if AI has enough money to invest in them.