Marignon National Summons

[Valandil]

Why not fire x5, cast spells? Lightning bolts are fun...

[Shovah32]

Because, as ive said, the harbingers are only TROOPS, they have no magic, priestly powerers or troop leading ability.

[Nerfix]

Hmm, it indeed seems that the spell isn't worth the cost. 144 astral pearls is....a lot.

[Reverend Zombie]

Valandil said:
Why not fire x5, cast spells? Lightning bolts are fun...

For the commander Harbinger, that is a good idea. It would still be nice to be able to give them some better self-defense than "fist" in case they're attacked.

As already mentioned, it is not an option for the troop Harbingers.

Would changing the spell so that it summons the same number of Harbinger commanders (instead of the troop kind) make it worth the cost?

[Nerfix]

It could make. But something also needs to be done with the Fist Angels...

[Shovah32]

A weak flaming sword (3dmgx3 vrs undead, length 2, fire dmg) could do for the angels and commander harbingers would be great (although, as i said if you upgrade the fist angels and make harbingers commanders you might have to drop 1 harbinger). As is there is no reason to cast this spell unless you really need the seraphs magic skills.
If i had 144 astral pearls as marignon that would get me 2-3 well equipped angels of fury (rather than 1 unequipped seraph and some sucky troops).

[Nerfix]

I quite like the idea.

[Frostmourne27]

Remember that big spells aren't always worth their cost, often they are cheaper than they should be, or in some cases more expensive. Could the angels possibly be armed with thunder fists? If there is some thematic reason to have them punch undead, they could atleast get magical fists. WRT the horn being replaced by magic weapons, that should be fixed, and its easy to do with a mod file: give it the bonus tag, and harbingers will allways have it.

[Kristoffer O]

Whats wrong with an angelic fist ?