Panzerfaust 3 IT-600

PlasmaKrab · #1 October 10th, 2006, 05:16 PM

Given the 'improved accuracy' rethoric on everyone's website, I'd say that the IT-600 sight gives decent hit probability against moving targets out to 600m as opposed to 300m for the basic PzFSt-III. The BW is clearly talking about operational range, not overall (technical) range. You could surely lob a PzFst rocket one mile away, but hitting anything would be potluck. Same with the Dynarange suit.

I don't know what the new accuracy rating has to be to have the same hit% at 600m as the PzFst-III had at 300m, you can probably figure that out better.
Remember that the system is clearly a clip-on sight, so the overall parameters of the projectile (including range) should probably left unchanged from the PzFst-3T.

Thinking about it, what about giving a decent FC rating to the PsFst-3 IT-600 teams?
I don't know if that is doable, but all in all, that would make at least as much sense as increasing the accuracy.

I'll tell you if I find anything reliable about service of other tandem-HEAT weapons. For starters, you may want to look up the Dutch Defence Ministry website, apparently the winning contender of the SRAT program was something called "PanzerFaust-3T600...

dunno how it turned out eventually. With any chance you'll be able to decipher official Dutch articles better than me!

kikka · #2 October 10th, 2006, 07:34 PM

Don,
when you write about a "Multi Charge RPG" class, do you mean already available or upcoming with the new V3 patch?
I know I should check with Mobhack, but my PC's presently down.
If
just upcoming, wouldn't it be easier to implement a new HEAT class, say 223, which would allow to model even multicharge tank ammo?
Thanks for your dedication.

DRG · #3 October 11th, 2006, 01:39 AM

The 222 code is used to allow LAWs etc in slots other than the first one (the only one with a HEAT slot). It is a switch to tell these to use HEAT pen figure instead of AP, *IF* the round is listed as AP. It's not used for slot one weapons which is the one the tank guns use

Don

DRG · #4 October 11th, 2006, 02:12 AM

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PlasmaKrab said:
I don't know what the new accuracy rating has to be to have the same hit% at 600m as the PzFst-III had at 300m, you can probably figure that out better.
Remember that the system is clearly a clip-on sight, so the overall parameters of the projectile (including range) should probably left unchanged from the PzFst-3T.

Thinking about it, what about giving a decent FC rating to the PsFst-3 IT-600 teams?
I don't know if that is doable, but all in all, that would make at least as much sense as increasing the accuracy.

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I'll worry about how to deal with them once I know who's using the system and right now all I ever find on the web are talk about the system NOT who's using it. I can assume the current nations that use the Pzf 3 system would be the prime customers but you know what happens when things are "assumed"..they usually end up wrong

As to the range..no they wouldn't be the same range as the Pzf 3 ( and 3T ) in game terms. This new one extends the range so that would be reflected in the stats ( upped to 12 hexes from 10 ) but first, before I put them in I need to find out who....if anyone..is using it. I also need to fid out if the existing Pzf 3 customers are also using the 3T version

Don

narwan · #5 October 12th, 2006, 01:05 PM

Should there be any dutch files that need translating (on this or other OB issues) feel free to get it touch with me.

Narwan

Alpha · #6 October 13th, 2006, 06:18 AM

I have also a Pz.F. question when did the orig. PF3 enter wide service in the WG army ? 1990 or 91 ??

DRG · #7 October 13th, 2006, 12:58 PM

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Alpha said:
I have also a Pz.F. question when did the orig. PF3 enter wide service in the WG army ? 1990 or 91 ??

There was a bit of a debate about that but the very earliest would be late 1992 and they are now set up to appear 1/93 in the West German OOB I'm working on for V3. ( this corrects the dates in the OOB's you have now )
The 3T version , which has been added to the OOB's I'm working on now but not in the OOB's you have, entered service in 1998 and it is a dual charge warhead which is now modeled in the game as such with it's own weapon class

Alpha · #8 October 13th, 2006, 07:19 PM

I only use my own "Alpha OOB" - but late 92- early 93 seems realistic. Till then they have to use the le. Pzfaust "Lanze". Not a very good weapon at this timeframe anymore. Also it is important that the Lanze remains in service for a while (reserve and 2nd line or support forces didn�t get Pz. Faust 3�s).....Carl Gustav still in serive, but only for battlefield illumination which is not modelled in the game anyway.

Will the long range hitting % of inf. At weapons put down a bit ? They are all to acurate on long distances (depending on type over 150-250m) esp. against moving targets (IMHO).

kikka · #9 October 16th, 2006, 04:59 AM

Don,
thanks for implementing the dual charge infantry AT, it's been a long time request on my side. I've had enough hard times with my russian infantry trying to cook ERA equipped chinese tanks...

Francois