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October 10th, 2006, 04:58 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
SE Wiki is raring to go, awaiting your contributions to fill it with all sorts of useful modding info!
http://wiki.spaceempires.net/index.php/Space_Empires_V
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October 10th, 2006, 06:11 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
I know that community is almighty. But I woudn't mind an official guide, though it will remove half of a joy.
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October 10th, 2006, 08:47 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
In reply to no particular member but to the thread in general. OMG. We (Shrapnel Games) have tried to stick to our resolve to take the high road on this release. But this is ridiculous, and I cannot refrain from pointing it out.
Has anyone read the Warranty Disclaimer from the SEV manual? Please know, Strategy First, the "publisher", is located in Canada; Malfador Machinations is located in California. Shrapnel Games, when SEIV and SEIV Gold were published, was located in Wake County, North Carolina:
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THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE GOVERNED BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA AND SHALL INURE
TO THE BENEFIT OF STRATEGY FIRST INC., MALFADOR MACHINATIONS AND ANY SUCCESSORS,
ADMINISTRATORS, HEIRS, AND ASSIGNS. ANY ACTION OR PROCEEDING BROUGHT BY EITHER PARTY AGAINST
THE OTHER ARISING OUT OF OR RELATED TO THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE BROUGHT ONLY IN A STATE OR
FEDERAL COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION LOCATED IN WAKE COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA. THE PARTIES
HEREBY CONSENT TO IN PERSONAM JURISDICTION OF SAID COURTS.
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I'm sorry. I care very much about Aaron Hall, and I can't believe they couldn't even take the time to do this right.
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October 10th, 2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
I think Strategy First botched things from beginning to end. Practically no marketing, bad website, worse forum, very bad release (instead of releasing it everywhere at once, it's dribbling out haphazardly). I hope Aaron dumps them.
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October 10th, 2006, 10:26 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
heh.
The demo had it right, so that's just bizzare.
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October 11th, 2006, 01:10 AM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
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Phoenix-D said:
heh.
The demo had it right, so that's just bizzare.
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I call it careless.
Well, if any of you become engaged in a legal battle with SFI and find yourself in Wake County, North Carolina, you have a place to stay 
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October 10th, 2006, 10:57 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
Annette - maybe their attorneys are forum shopping and prefer the laws in NC and particularly Wake County! (j/k of course). This is malpractice if their attorneys actually charged them a review fee on this one. Any action now arising from SE5 can only be brought in that County unless both parties consent to forum change. What a mess!
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October 10th, 2006, 11:49 PM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
I love shrapnel games and think they are one of the best publisher of the games they shell on the net or in the world.

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October 11th, 2006, 12:25 AM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
I'm sorry if I appear a bit slow but I don't GET the warranty thing. Did S1 just copy the warranty from Shrapnel since although they are in Canada they are quoting Shrapnels location?
Also I am in Australia, does this mean I can't get a warranty? (not something I have ever payed attention to before)
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October 11th, 2006, 12:26 AM
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Re: SE:V Manual Released
It doesn't mean you don't get a warrenty. It means- if the EULA is valid, and that's..questionable..that your local laws concering warrenties don't take effect, and instead any disputes have to use the laws and courts of North Carolina.
By the way, amusing little tidbit in the SFI EULA:
"You may not: ..Alter, decompile, modify reverse engineer or disassemble the Software, create derivative works based upon the Software,..
..Upload or transmit the Software, or any portion thereof, to any electronic bulletin board, network, or other type of multi-use computer system regardless of purpose"
Wouldn't that technically forbid mods? 
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