horror mark on pretender

[SalsaDoom]

Regardless of the magical psuedoscience behind horror mark, it does permanently make SC pretenders worthless, and its cheap and easy to cast. This is wrong in my opinion -- the spell horror mark doesn't even require any gems to cast, its so low that just about any dippy mage could cast it in short order..

I'm with Twan and thejeff here.

--SD

Edit: Also that sometimes games can run -very- long makes anything permanent to a pretender extremely powerful, and rather annoying.

[Graeme Dice]

SalsaDoom said:
Regardless of the magical psuedoscience behind horror mark, it does permanently make SC pretenders worthless, and its cheap and easy to cast.

Could somebody post the stats of the horrors that attack your pretender?

[SalsaDoom]

My poor fellas got attacked by the Eater of the Gods, which pretty much got him in one hit, on the second turn (he wasted the last turn of his life casting "Mass Flight" -- this guy interupted my storming of a castle).

He wasn't -quite- a SC, didn't have quite the hit points but was very close, close enough no regular swarm of units could have a hope of killing him -- especially with such nicities as the sword of many colours, att and def of 24, mr of 20, 3 attacks and spells, etc.

--SD

[alexti]

I think that ease of horror mark casting has some merits. If the pretender is bold enough to lead his troops in the battle he should be able to deal with horrors (at least pretender god scared of horrors doesn't seem thematic). But pretender following his battle plans when attacked by horror really hurts. He should be able to realize that his plans were for leading troops into the battle, not fighting horror one-on-one. I would like to see optional scripts, so one can be assigned for scheduled battle and another for duels (vs horrors, assasins etc). Unfortunately, it's probably difficult to implement. But even the ability to tell the pretender (or any commander) not to follow script in case of duels and use his judgement instead would be very nice.

[SalsaDoom]

Well, I actually managed to defeated the Eater of the Gods the second time he came, (ring of warning has it uses), but shortly later a Hunter of Heroes came. My pathetic guard fled after a few turns and then the hunter killed my pretender in one hit -- if you look at the Hunter of Heroes attacks, he has one that just kills it one hit always. So, no matter who your god was he would almost certainly die against this creature nearly instantly. I ended up just throwing in the towel.

Horror Mark shouldn't be permanent on pretenders after death. In my Humble Opinion, thats stupid and extremely frusterating and annoying for no reason.

[Folket]

Why don't you look at way to avoid geting your pretender horror marked? Having large summons that might get targetet instead of your pretender and such.

I do not think we should nerf horror mark and call it over powered before we have tried all possibilities.

It is nice to see that horror mark has become powerful,but I'm not certain that there is no way to counter it.

Horror mark should be powerful, as it sacrifies the option to do some use in the battle for the possibility of doing great harm later.

[Belcarl]

This might be silly, but I got a nasty idea.

Would it be possible to enslave horrors with a horror marked pretender, equiped with say Tartarian chains?

Dont know how high the Horror MR is, but maybe it's too high.