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November 10th, 2001, 04:42 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
Remember, you will 25% maintanance and if you reduce this in the setup by 5%, you only pay 20% maintance on a ship, i.e. you don't pay 1/4 but 1/5 of the whole ship!
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November 10th, 2001, 06:04 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
Rusty Nail: Any ship even remotely near a Psychic race should always have a Master Computer to block AS.
Then, you just have to stay outta range of the computer virus, which is potentially easier.
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November 10th, 2001, 06:23 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
In PBM I thus far did best with Religious. The 100% hit chance gives a great advantage. Combine this with a ship strategy of Maximum Weapons Range gives a huge advantages and a lot of misses on the enemy side (in combat replay). Rusty, did you take ship staregy into account when doing the simulations?
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November 10th, 2001, 06:39 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
I tried Religious in my Last PBW game, and got thoroughly crushed before I had a chance to research the Talisman.
I did a lot better in the game before that with Organic. There was one battle towards the end of the game where I had a fleet with over a dozen ships armed with two to four Seeking Parasites each. When I was watching the combat replay, my screensaver kicked in on four consecutive turns because of all the waves of seekers flying around.
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November 10th, 2001, 08:26 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
I find that I don't like any of the advanced research trees. I would rather use the 1500 points to increase things like aggressiveness and defensiveness for one thing, then use that advantage to attack with the null spacers since they skip shields and armor.
Summary: 1500 racial points can be better used to increase lesser traits when there is good stuff in the basic research tree.
EDIT: Oh wait, that was more meant for the 'How to Fight Organic Tech' thread. Oh well.
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November 11th, 2001, 12:04 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
S-J: A Master Computer is not a viable defense against the Allegiance Subverter in one on one combat in strategic mode. You can try "Don't get hurt" but the AS will eventually corner you. Of course, the AS needs massive shield defences in order to take the first hit from some powerful baddies.
Avdb: I did look at ship strategies. The AS does best with a point blank/short weapons strategy. While optimal weapons damage is usually the best strategy for most direct fire ships, sometimes it is better to get close and ignore defensive considerations, e.g. if you are using a worm or an AS where you do not expect to get hit back. In a fleet though, this could be dangerous.
MM could enhance the game immeasurably by introducing some more sophisticated ship strategies. An example: I call this "just out of range". Place your ship at a distance away from your opponent equal to your opponent's strike range (move points plus direct fire range) plus one. This assures you of the first shot if he moves towards you, which will often be the deciding factor. Any human operating optimally would do this automatically in tactical combat, right? This would give a much more formidable AI as well as allowing PBW humans a more sophisticated use of ships in fleets.
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November 11th, 2001, 04:38 PM
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Re: Racial Traits, Discussion on Pro\'s/Con\'s.
quote: Originally posted by rusty nail:
S-J: A Master Computer is not a viable defense against the Allegiance Subverter in one on one combat in strategic mode.
Why that? If he did not bring a computer virus along you are immune to his attacks.
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