OT: Season 3 BSG

Black_Knyght · #1 October 25th, 2006, 12:17 AM

Hell, with Baltar as their new leader they're worse off than if they'd never rebelled in the first place. Just imagine how much they'll suffer having to constantly listen to his pathetic whining and self-pity...

Randallw · #2 October 25th, 2006, 01:54 AM

I saw the first 3 episodes of this season last night. I get the idea that situation is past but I have to agree it looked like a critique of Iraq. The humans fight the Cylon occupation with suicide bombing, the Cylons have a police force treated as traitors by the others and who wear masks to protect their identity, and the Cylon conquerers who claim to be allies of the "legitimate" government force said government to sign the execution order with a gun to their head. Hard to miss which side they are supporting.

VanderVecken · #3 October 25th, 2006, 12:34 PM

Hmmm, Don't think they are supporting any side, but did find a way to show that there are always two (or more) sides to any conflict. Some may want to complain about the "Analogies to Iraq" being forced down on us, but I think it does our country proud that we even have the capacity to do this. It probably would be illegal to make something like this in over 30% of the countries of the world. Plus, for the most part, it was entertaining as well.

Hmmm (part 2)... Col. Tigh and Starbuck have always been adversarial, but now both have come off the planet with some really heavy emotional baggage; could a bond of misery (or at least a drunken commiseration) continue to form ??

Oh yeah! Atmospheric maneuver was superb, gutsy, legend making thing of beauty.

Azselendor · #4 October 25th, 2006, 01:04 PM

The funny part is that RDM didn't need to mine iraq for those episodes, He had all the puppet governments and occupations from the last 8,000 years to mine. So I dismiss the Iraq anaology, Suicide bombings (or homicide bombings if you watch fox) isn't exclusive to iraq.

But it was definately nice to see that someone on TV has the guts to show that there another side exists.

gregebowman · #5 October 25th, 2006, 08:57 PM

I still think that Baltar is a special cylon who isn't going to be duplicated. maybe even unknown to #6, he's being groomed to be the ulimate Cylon leader, which we haven't even heard about yet. Or maybe he'll be the hybrid's mentor. I really would like them to speed up Baltar's character so we know what he'll ultimately will become.

As far as Friday's episode, I thought it was awesome. The Galactica going into the atmosphere was a great and original trick. too bad about the Pegasus, but the title of the show is Battlestar Galactica, not Battlestars Galactica and Pegasus. Who knows, there might be a third surviving battlestar out there that they'll eventually run into. I like the theory about Tighe being a marine. Makes sense. And ultimately, I approve of the way he took care of his wife. Decently and humanely. After all, he did love her, no matter what her flaws were. Can't wait to see what happens next.

Randallw · #6 October 25th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Found this video of the Galactica's atmosphere attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhMA4ICS_PU

AgentZero · #7 October 26th, 2006, 12:56 AM

That was just freaking awesome.

Tim_Ward · #8 October 26th, 2006, 08:31 PM

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Randallw said:
I saw the first 3 episodes of this season last night. I get the idea that situation is past but I have to agree it looked like a critique of Iraq. The humans fight the Cylon occupation with suicide bombing, the Cylons have a police force treated as traitors by the others and who wear masks to protect their identity, and the Cylon conquerers who claim to be allies of the "legitimate" government force said government to sign the execution order with a gun to their head.

Iraq is far from the only parallel, the Nazi occupation of France is a much better fit. The scene at the end of Precipe, the one with the execution, is a direct reference to some war film.

Last time I looked, the Americans in Iraq are not rounding up random people off the street and carting them off into the desert to be executed. I don't see any evidence that the iraqi security forces are reguarded as traitors or collabtors by the major of the iraqi populus, either. These are the people who turned out in massive numbers to vote for a government, remember.

You also have the sectarian conflict in iraq which is to a certain degree seperate from the conflict between the americans and the islamic militants, which the media likes to tar under the same bursh - insurgants. None of that is reflected in the New Caprica story. You just have the cylon occupiers and the colonial resistance, a much better fit for occupied France indeed, all of occupied europe and, as others have said, occupations throughout history.

Yes, there are iraqi elements; suicide bombings (though this is also applicable to palestine and, further back in history, lebanon) and the term insurgant though, again, this term was used in Vietnam and, IIRC, Algeria. Some of the cylon rhetoric also echos some of the american rhetoric.

I also think it is unfair to BSG to say they're "supporting" one side other the other; the new caprica resistence are not exactly depicted as angels, especially if you go and watch the webisodes.

PS. The galactica airdrop was wicked cool.

Azselendor · #9 October 27th, 2006, 08:18 AM

Has anyone else noticed RDM's fondness for World War II, I bet we could convert him to some of Shrapnel's games.

AngleWyrm · #10 October 28th, 2006, 07:06 AM

Um...So how exactly did the Chief and Gaeda start using the Doggy Bowl technique?