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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 Correct AT.  I recall discussing this in an electronic navigation class in undergrad.  If I find that stuff I'll post a link ... |  
	
		
	
	
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				November 4th, 2006, 12:25 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 On the 2142 note how can it make relevant in-game ads without tracking what you are doing on the internet. If it doesn't do that then it must just generate generic ads for everyone, if so then why does it need to do anything outside of run the game? 
 Exactly it does moniter what you are doing.
 
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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 Can you imagine a time when your playing a game and up pops an ad for the porn site you just accidently visited?  ROTFLMAO... Or worse, your kid is playing Barnies Great Gay Cookie Monster Adventure with Big Bird and Erne and up pops an add for a porn site for which you are a paying member of.  Can any one say "Moooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeee  eeeeeeeeeeee!" 
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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 "Do you have verifiable source of evidence, or is that an anti-rumor rumor?"
 Like I said, I work at EA so I did my own little investigation when the game was released.  I didn't want to be associated with a company that installs adware or spyware.  There are also articles on Gamespot and IGN that distill the incorrect rumour as just that, a rumour.
 
 "Even if it doesn't track sites you visit, it is still a despicable practice (ad banners in products you explicitly paid for)."
 
 Actually it's not.  Think about it.  World of Warcraft charges you what, $10 a month?  The Battlefield franchise charges you a one-time fee of $50, in which you can play *forever* without another cost.  EA has to pay to keep their servers on, and given there is almost 100,000 players logging on every DAY, you can imagine that this gets expensive.
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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 Sorry for the double post: 
"On the 2142 note how can it make relevant in-game ads without tracking what you are doing on the internet. If it doesn't do that then it must just generate generic ads for everyone, if so then why does it need to do anything outside of run the game?
 
Exactly it does moniter what you are doing."
 
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				 Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems. 
 Jeku said:Like I said, I work at EA so I did my own little investigation when the game was released.
 
 While I don't doubt that you did your investigation, that's not a verifiable source that all can refer to and, well, verify.
 
 EA has to pay to keep their servers on, and given there is almost 100,000 players logging on every DAY, you can imagine that this gets expensive.
 
 I can also imagine huge sums of money coming from all of those sales...
 
 If they can not afford to run the servers (which I doubt), then they should charge to access the servers (or maybe charge to access "premium" servers and have free, but lower bandwidth/performance servers). Adware in a paid-for product is not acceptable.
 
 In-game advertising is despicable in all forms. We are already overly saturated with a bombardment of advertisements everywhere else; we do not need games to fall prey to ad-whoring as well.
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