ATTN: All players for "P&N on PBW, take 2"

[Fyron]

Again, you only serve to weaken your arguement. The only way that you would know about what is going on in the game is if someone were to tell you what is going on. Since I am the only one actively arguing against the "merger", those petty insults would have to have been directed at me. The only person acting immature here is you. I have not said anything at all immature.

"My way" of playing SE4- as you so fallaciously put it- is how probably 95% of the people that I have played the game view surrender. In fact, it is how surrender was designed. I direct you to Aaron Hall's words on surrender from the Online SE4 manual:

Surrender
When all is lost, and your empire cannot possibly go on, you can always surrender. You surrender to another empire by sending them a Surrender message. Once this message is sent, your entire empire will become controlled by that other player. Once you do this, your game will be over.

Nowhere in there does it say that surrender is to be used as a "merger" of two allied empires. It says that the option is to be used when your empire is nearly dead, and it implies that it is to be done to the empire that is doing the destroying. So, if surrender is to be used in such a contradictory manner, it must be set up in the house rules of the game to be done so. Otherwise, the default rule is that surrender cannot be used for a "merger."

I plan to ignore any further insulting remarks made in this thread. I ask that a moderator lock this thread if any more are made (or, at the least, remove the offending Posts). Thanks.

[Rich04]

Again you are incorrect. Anyone can go over to the forum for the game and read what is going on. Every once and a while I check the forum.

Unfortunately one cannot post to the forum or I would have done so there.

I had info concerning Mardik that I could pass on to Dumbluck. Alas you reared your head again and acted like an idiot.

Once again I mentioned no names. You felt insulted. Well if the shoe fits. Then you must have been behaving badly.

"Since I am the only one actively arguing against the "merger", those petty insults would have to have been directed at me. The only person acting immature here is you. I have not said anything at all immature."

And that means 95% are in agreement with you. Pretty funny math.

The proper term would be whining. Anybody can go check the forum themselves.

Nor was the statement directed at 'you'.

But it must be nice to be in the center of your universe.

It is not the first time I have had a run in with you Imperator Fyron. God please spare me from it again.

Oh yeah thats you. Time to become an athiest.

[ November 02, 2002, 22:30: Message edited by: Rich04 ]

[Fyron]

This is getting out of hand. Will a moderator please lock this thread before Rich04 flames me any more?

[geoschmo]

Ok, both of you need to calm down. You aren't getting anywhere, either one of you. Obviously you both disagree and you aren't going to convince each other. Just leave it at that. I am locking this thread down.

Geoschmo