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November 10th, 2006, 03:51 PM
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Re: Downloadable retail needed?
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B0rsuk said:
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Gandalf Parker said:
Keeping it clear that piracy is theft tends to do the most good there.
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I don't see how spreading FUD can be good. Piracy is copyright infringement. Theft is the act of taking something from someone unlawfully. When I take something from someone, he loses it. That's not the case with unathorised copying.
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I dont think that holds up but fine, change it to being illegal then. The thing is that most of the losses being avoided are by legal owners copying software for good friends (called casual copying) so most of the efforts to fight it are simple copy protection and clarity of the crime. Piracy isnt as big a subject, nor as big a crime effort as most people think. Also, this isnt an open enough forum to discuss piracy. Join me in the alt.hackers newsgroup (I host their site) and we can discuss it more.
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You can argue about lost sales, but you can't prove anything, especially exact numbers.
Guess what, you can't have a credit card if you're <18.
Piracy can work as a sort of advertisment, too.
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Im older than computers. Ive been on the internet since before it was the internet. Ive heard all the argruments and seen all of the data. It doesnt amount to much.
(where can you not have a credit card if you are under 18?)
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November 10th, 2006, 04:05 PM
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Re: Downloadable retail needed?
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where can you not have a credit card if you are under 18?
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As far as I'm informed most European banks would only give you a credit card once you're past 18 and have a job.
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November 10th, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Re: Downloadable retail needed?
Hmm in the US anyone can get a credit card. Of course if you are under 18 and have to get your parents to sign for everything and they refuse, or you have zero credit rating, it might seem impossible but that doesnt mean there is a rule about it. Under those conditions anyone would have trouble getting a card but age has nothing to do with it. Just say your broke. 
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November 11th, 2006, 01:51 AM
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Re: Downloadable retail needed?
Eh, I once had a wonderful friend named Tho (The Homeless One) who went to college at 15. Never mind that life was a major struggle for her at that point (good looking / mature enough to be attractive to most guys/some girls, too young to drink or date them, too young to be taken seriously once people learned her age). Thing was, she was a college student at 15. Got about 10 pre-approved credit card offers, didn't require parental approval, income verification, anything. She was a bit more mature than most, didn't ruin her life with them - but imagine the ones like her that did.
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