Newbie Game EA (Running) - Page 2

Sheap · #1 November 15th, 2006, 08:13 PM

To the nation of Niefelheim:
R'lyeh is a peace-loving nation bearing you no ill will. We have no interest in the military affairs going on in the lands east of our aquatic realm and, as long as you do not attack our holdings, we are happy to accept a peace and trade arrangement.

-- Sheap-Niggurath

Foodstamp · #2 November 15th, 2006, 08:38 PM

We accepted your peace, even to the point that we were initiating trade with you. Although it was roleplaying, I said I was not going to attack Neifelheim again. You made out like you wanted peace and you know very well I accepted it, then you realized... LAWLZ, I GOT 30 GIANTS AT HIS BORDER, TO HECK WITH PEACE, WE WILL SAY HE LIED ABOUT TRADING AND WANTS TO WARZ LAWLZ.

It's one thing to roleplay, it's another to try to spin a person's OOC actions. This is just a game, so I refuse to criticize your character, but please quit trying to discredit the OOC player by saying I told you this, and then did that.

Here is the bottom line as displayed by your actions...

You are open to peace and negotiations until you realize you can take people's provinces, then all that you have said is void.

You spin it with the other players by saying "He did this, he did that".

To ensure that the 1% chance that you could lose does not happen, you hold hands with vanheim.

The above is your playstyle in a nutshell.

Now so the players do not have to go through the posts to see what I am talking about...

I said:

To the peoples of Neifelheim,

A battle to the south of the Kingdom of Pangaea was fought, and it is worth noting that this battle has made us a stronger kingdom although many centaur were lost. The battle prowess of the giants is simply incredible, and although their numbers were drastically depleted, we will not be invading the old Ermor lands again. These wounded Giants will be allowed to return home to their Mountain Kingdom if they can find a way through the surrounding Vanheim lands. This Decision has been made by the Centaur Cohort of Pangaea, and the Pan will not go against us on this for they respect our decisions most of all in times of war.

Amphious, Heirophant and Cohort leader.

You said:

I think the last events that lead to the attack of my port by the Kingdom of Pangaea from an another continent where part of a missunderstanding. I state again to the world and to the panii, that I do NOT wish war with them. "My numbers were drastically depleted", as Pangaea's king (or thane or warchief or despot... ) said earlier. I bring the world of peace to their capital with 3 chosen priests (who made their name know in the field of negociations and peace making). Their escort will consist only a few servants, not more then a few giants and a handfull amazon horseman to lead the way in the lands, since my giants tend to loose the road in those lands. I hope you will not attack them, and our peace negotiations can start.

Then in a private message that I will not repeat here, we initiated a trade agreement.

Then the very next turn you attacked me, and brought a friend to ensure victory.

So cut the crap and lets get this over with. Try to keep the rest of the spin and discrediting in character, which I absolutely don't mind.

If you want peace like you say you do, I will reiterate, remove your forces from Pangaea lands. If you do not want peace, keep your diplomacy in character to the rest of the players, not OOC lies.

We have already offered you peace, and we even thought we were at peace until you realized what kind of military advantage you had.

llamabeast · #3 November 16th, 2006, 07:26 AM

T'ien Ch'i,

The proud Sauromatian peoples laugh at your empty threats. If you can crush our army, do so. We are not so sure you can succeed, and if you do our warriors will have died with honour.

Ours is a noble nation, and we will not be toyed with or manipulated, nor even consider betraying our allies.

Let the war be a fair one,

Sauromatia.

FrankTrollman · #4 November 15th, 2006, 04:20 AM

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RamsHead said:
I must point out that I, as Helheim, have not used a dual bless strategy unlike *cough T'ien Ch'i and *cough Ulm who are *cough allies *cough. Excuse me, I seem to have a tickle.

We have a what? You've seen our troops, and we've seen yours. Your units have a larger bless bonus in two categories than ours...

-Finger Pointing is Hilarious

Sheap · #5 November 15th, 2006, 05:22 AM

The server will be down for a few minutes while I monkey around with it. If you happen to be caelum and are trying to play your turn, just sit tight.

Sheap · #6 November 15th, 2006, 05:31 AM

Server is back up. Even though the server says 24 hours remaining, I may force-host the turn at 11:30 AM Pacific time if Caelum hasn't played by then (this is when the timer would normally expire on the quickhost). Caelum hasn't staled a turn yet AFAIK so no worries but I want to be up front about things.

Saarud · #7 November 15th, 2006, 05:34 AM

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FrankTrollman said:

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RamsHead said:
I must point out that I, as Helheim, have not used a dual bless strategy unlike *cough T'ien Ch'i and *cough Ulm who are *cough allies *cough. Excuse me, I seem to have a tickle.

We have a what? You've seen our troops, and we've seen yours. Your units have a larger bless bonus in two categories than ours...

-Finger Pointing is Hilarious

Yeah... well my bless is larger than yours anyhow... oh wait what kinda bless are we talking about?

Really this is a Newbie game and I and most others are probably playing our first MP games. I never knew using bless strategy would seem gamey. I have myself with my Agarthan nation choosed to use a bless strategy (although quite unsuccesful since I seriously suck at this game

) as I had no idea blessing is a gamey tactic.

Anyhow I agree with Stryke11 and I hope a new Newbie game on a larger map will start after 3.02 is released.

Oh and even though my Agarthan nation is among the smallest in provinces that still is alive I have the largest army... atleast something to be proud about. Yeah and I also whopped some Maverni Eponi Knights this turn.... ahhh that was sooo sweet.

RamsHead · #8 November 15th, 2006, 10:19 PM

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FrankTrollman said:

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RamsHead said:
I must point out that I, as Helheim, have not used a dual bless strategy unlike *cough T'ien Ch'i and *cough Ulm who are *cough allies *cough. Excuse me, I seem to have a tickle.

We have a what? You've seen our troops, and we've seen yours. Your units have a larger bless bonus in two categories than ours...

-Finger Pointing is Hilarious

First off, you are right, you do not have a dual bless. I am in another EA game against T'ien Ch'i, and their sacreds do have the 9f9w bless. So I got confused. It was an honest mistake, and I apologize.

As far as finger pointing goes, if you would bother to pay attention, several here have talked about the Heims uberblessed units. While Helheim was not specifically mentioned, it was not discounted either. I felt I had a right to defend myself by saying that I, in fact, am not using a dual bless strategy. That is unless you consider a 4e5a bless a dual bless strategy. I also pointed out Ulm, who is using one, to show that in EA the Heims are not the only ones using it. If you have a problem with the "finger pointing" then that is your problem, not mine.

Foodstamp · #9 November 15th, 2006, 10:37 PM

Helheim is performing competitively against the other nations without using the played out bless strategy. /salute you for that.

As far as other nations using a double bless, I don't really think it has as big of an impact on the game than when used in conjunction with glamour or neifel giants. Some players have suggested it is insanely powerful with Mictlan but I have no experience with that nation whatsoever.

I hope maybe in a future patch instead of nerfing these bless strategies, Illwinter gives certain nations counters to the double blesses on these particular nations (The heims and possible mictlan?).